Any advise on how to be LAWFUL evil, and at that work this plan out at only level 5?

[Cheerful Coffin]

Okay, here is the scoop of my predicament everyone.. I'm a level 5 spellthief, a badass mofo chaotic evil spellthief.

Hi, how ya doin'..

We're in the forgotten realms, so ofcourse, worshipping stuff is practicaly an obligation. So as one player put it when I ranted on a soapbox "Not another demon worshipper!"

But.. That is not the problem..

The problem is, whilst I was communing with the evil spirits, I journeyed into the fourth level of hell and met up with Lady Fierna. We hit it off quite well actually (I even made her laugh!) and she had never fealt such feelings for a mortal, which umm.. didn't settle well with her father one bit.. "I have slaves more powerful then this whelp!" So if I'm going to ever hope to marry Fierna and rule hell, I gotta' impress the bigman first. But how does one go about that? Especialy when your alignmet was CHAOTIC EVIL?!

So Lady Fierna gave me a wraithblade, figuring it would help me gain her father's approval, I'm chaotic, but I'm not stupid. I COULD just flip out and kill random cattle and get free wraiths to spread mayhem and terror. But that's not going to raise Belial's attention.. So I have to wait for pure souls to be unsuspecting, pure souls like clerics of Pelor who happen to be in my party..

Also I got what was coming to me by trying to play "easy streak". There was an avatar of Mielekki and being the chaotic evil idiot that I am godess>power>sneak up beind and absorb>easy evil points. There's no such thing as easy I found out..

It turned out me being an elf and her being the godess of the elf had some kind of tramautic reaction which caused me to turn into a girl, and now I look like this:

(Also the DM fealt it would be funny if my voice now sounded like Kagoma's from Inuyasha..)

SO, not only do I need to find a way to break this stupid curse to end my eternal shame.. but I need plans and actions to get on Belial's good err.. less evil side so I can woo his daughter.. I had a plan to get ahold of a Gate spell somehow, find the legendary Tarrasque, and unleash it on the sixth layer so it can mow that layer down and Belial can have what he's always desired.. But that would be an EXTREMELY large while, cause if I try to do it right now dieing won't be able to describe what will happen to me..

I have however created a small cult of two stoner-like characters. One's a brainless twit of a barbarian, the other is a pig-headed rogue who only concerns himself with getting laid. It's almost like those two heavy metal guys who worshipped Little Nickey..

And I plan to get the goodguys of our team in trouble with the law, it's simple, I just say in the most girliest way possible "t3y m0135t3Rd m3!11eleven!", the gaurds arrest them, and I further convince them that their god's don't give a crap about them and that being good doesn't get you ahead. I've been trying to convince them that so far with political commentary. Even if they kill me out of anger thier path to the darkside will only further be sealed, and I'll just go to the badplace to try and impress Belial so I can be with Lady Fierna.. Most likely involving the shame of being the (It rhymes with witch) to a little underage elf girl. (Because it doesn't look like i'm going to find a cure to this curse anytime soon..)

I've thought about finding a cleric for that, but I ceartainly can't go to one of Mielekki even though that would make things ten times easier as you'd know.. I'd die..

Any advise so I don't countiualy look like just a wannabe super villain guy struck with puppy-Cerebus love???

 

[Cheerful Coffin]

I've found out from talking to the dm we'll be batteling demons soon, which could possibly bring me oppurtunities to build unholy armies, considering I could use diplomacy to sway against thier masters, promise them a seat of power in the infernal plains, and ultimately screw them over so Belial can claim what is rightfuly his???

 

[Endovior]

Hmm. First things first, I'd invest a lot of time into finding a Girlde of Femininity/Masculinity. I seem to recall a lot of stuff about how the Girlde is more powerful even then a Wish in this respect, so it should serve your purpose nicely. Unless, of course, your DM is determined to screw you, in which case he'll rule that divine magic is even stronger (this assumes that Mielikki did this on purpose, and put not insignificant effort into it!)... but then there's no help for you. (Indeed, considering your story, I find this highly likely!)

In any event, if you find yourself unable to change back (and I WOULD run the full Gauntlet of transformative possibilities, from the Girdle to Polymorph any Object to Wish and Miracle), I would be leery of your current followers (refer to the DM being determined to screw you bit, but take it literally instead of metaphorically... because and DM that pulls such a trick doesn't sound like one of the nice ones). That being said, there's a number of other options. You could use various methods of disguise (ranging upwards in price from the disguise skill and a well-stocked disguise kit to the Hat of Disguise) to fool most onlookers and maintain SOME dignity.

As for Evil Plots, buy Helms of Opposite Alignment for your Good party members, and forcibly apply them while they sleep. Indeed, buy those Helms for just about any Good NPC. Also, look into commissioning said Helms at a higher Caster Level, to make the save DC higher.

 

[Immak Antunel]

I had a plan to get ahold of a Gate spell somehow, find the legendary Tarrasque, and unleash it on the sixth layer so it can mow that layer down and Belial can have what he's always desired.. But that would be an EXTREMELY large while, cause if I try to do it right now dieing won't be able to describe what will happen to me..

Ooh! Free Levistus! Everyone will just love you if you do that, and if you can get a remorhaz to help you out, it shouldn't even be very hard.

Any advise so I don't countiualy look like just a wannabe super villain guy struck with puppy-Cerebus love???

Well, I think things sound pretty cool the way they are. Hmmm... a lawful evil character might not actually betray his friends so long as he has some respect for them, for example if they've ever saved his life. Maybe try using your powers for "good," since creating undead and stuff is inherently evil, so if the clerics allow your actions "for the greater good" than they are being subtly corrupted, and when Pelor lays the smackdown (i.e. no spells) on them for consorting with undead, they should be ready for more blatant coruption. In general, lawful evil is the best alignment for pretending to be good, since you'd still believe in law and order and stuff. Try the whole "ends justify the means" philosophy, that oughta at least be a good start towards LE-ness.

 

[Immak Antunel]

Dang, took too long for my own post...

As for Evil Plots, buy Helms of Opposite Alignment for your Good party members, and forcibly apply them while they sleep. Indeed, buy those Helms for just about any Good NPC. Also, look into commissioning said Helms at a higher Caster Level, to make the save DC higher.

Or try a wisdom-lowering poison on the good characters first, this might be cheaper. Heck, if you can find one, hire a lamia (disguised as a centaur if need be) to drain their wisdom.

 

[Timeboxer]

Y'know, personally I think that an adorable and sweet-looking elven girl who also happens to be Pure Evil has always been a really cool villain idea. Just think of the benefits you get!

But that's just me.

 

[Cheerful Coffin]

lol, I like the sound of helmets corrupting thier souls better, lowering thier wisdom would nerf thier spellcasting, making them less useful to me..

I could try playing the sympathy card on the chaotic good sorcerer, his backstory has him being laughed at for having a girly name, so me and him have something in common, we're also both elf, we both use arcane magick, and we're both chaotic. Which is probably why I piss him off so, he's probably afraid I might be what he'll evidently become..

 

[domino]

It would only lower their wisdom for the duration of the spell. After the helmets are on, you can let their wisdom go back up.

 

[Rystil Arden]

It would only lower their wisdom for the duration of the spell. After the helmets are on, you can let their wisdom go back up.

Indeed, and the DCs on those stupid helmets are very very low. The Good PC IMC who wanted a succubus cohort had to drain her Wisdom down a whole bunch before she would succumb

 

[Andre La Roche]

Indeed, and the DCs on those stupid helmets are very very low. The Good PC IMC who wanted a succubus cohort had to drain her Wisdom down a whole bunch before she would succumb

And the good PC kept his alignment after doing that?