Any good Scifi+cyberpunk rpgs?

HellHound said:
PJ - I hunted down Mike Pondsmith @ Origins and asked him about the game, and he said to look it up in the con book for Saturday games and sign up.

I couldn't find it in the con book, and gave up.

Man. I knew PS went Corp, but this sort of passive-aggressive marketing strategy is irratating as hell.

"Whee, here it comes! No you can't actually look at it! Silly rabbit. V3 is for kids!"

WTF? ;) :\
 

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Pozatronic said:
I feel what you're feeling. Cyberpunk 2020 is still one of my favorite games. The whole Fuzion ruleset (from Mekton, Bubblegum Crisis, Champions) didn't really do that much for me. Still, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Yeah, there was only, like two really into it that i knew of. Conkle and Fannon. Conkle is selling his Lightspeed stuff over at RPGnow. I hope its selling well for him. I have no idea what the deal is with fannon and the line of fuzion stuff he was working on.

fuzion was...not bad. D20 is like it, in that there could be many different versions of it made. But it was nothing i would want to give up interlock for and i had long since given up the Hero system, so....
Plus it was popular for, oh about five seconds. Fuzion had to be one of the worst hype-to-production ratios i have ever seen. :)
 


I have to throw in my suggestion for Ex Machina as well. The system is effect based so you can build the character you want and not get into a toy race like CP2020 or Shadowrun. And the settings are brilliant. I so wish I knew a group playing using the beanstalk setting.

Jack
 

Jack - I'm using the beanstalk (Heaven over Mountain) as a part of my New Tribes setting for our CyberPunk d20 game we run at home. Very sweet.
 

Pozatronic said:
I feel what you're feeling. Cyberpunk 2020 is still one of my favorite games. The whole Fuzion ruleset (from Mekton, Bubblegum Crisis, Champions) didn't really do that much for me. Still, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Hmmm? Mekton is Interlock (same system as Cyberpunk), Bubblegum Crisis, too, AFAIK; Champions is HERO.

Now, Fuzion is the combination of HERO and Interlock, of course, but none of the games you listed are based on the Fuzion rules. There might be Fuzion versions out for them, of course, but the original games are not.

Bye
Thanee
 

HellHound said:
PJ - I hunted down Mike Pondsmith @ Origins and asked him about the game, and he said to look it up in the con book for Saturday games and sign up.

I couldn't find it in the con book, and gave up.

Mike was down hanging with us at I-Con this year and a couple of my friends got to play it. From what they told me it was pretty good overall taking place after the collapse of most civilization. Plus something about nano-tech going crazy and rebuilding a city over and over again, tearing down buildings and raising them up again. Sounded kind of cool. From what Mike mentioned it sounded more like cyberPUNK than CYBERpunk, which makes he happy :)

-John-
 

PJ-Mason said:
Yeah, there was only, like two really into it that i knew of. Conkle and Fannon. Conkle is selling his Lightspeed stuff over at RPGnow. I hope its selling well for him. I have no idea what the deal is with fannon and the line of fuzion stuff he was working on.

fuzion was...not bad. D20 is like it, in that there could be many different versions of it made. But it was nothing i would want to give up interlock for and i had long since given up the Hero system, so....
Plus it was popular for, oh about five seconds. Fuzion had to be one of the worst hype-to-production ratios i have ever seen. :)

Jay Libby still puts stuff out for Fuzion now and then but he is more into The Basic System (which is a bridge between Fuzion and d20) and is not a bad system to start with.

Interestingly I am in more Fuzion games than I am in d20 games. Interestingly Fuzion at its core is not a game system but an engine to design a system. I like the fact that I can take most Interlock stuff (Mekton, Cyberpunk 2020) and use it pretty much without changes.
 

Thanee said:
Hmmm? Mekton is Interlock (same system as Cyberpunk), Bubblegum Crisis, too, AFAIK; Champions is HERO.

Now, Fuzion is the combination of HERO and Interlock, of course, but none of the games you listed are based on the Fuzion rules. There might be Fuzion versions out for them, of course, but the original games are not.

Bye
Thanee

ahhh...isn't that what he said? The fuzion rulesets for those games he didn't like. He didn't say anything about the original games. I thought the Champions: New millenium books looked good and had better writing, but the fuzion system just didn't do it for the vast majority of people.
 

Thanee said:
Hmmm? Mekton is Interlock (same system as Cyberpunk), Bubblegum Crisis, too, AFAIK; Champions is HERO.

Mekton Zeta (the latest incarnation of Mekton) is Fuzion.

Bubblegum Crisis is most definitely a Fuzion product.

Champions: New Millenium was also a Fuzion game.
 

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