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5E Anyone else feeling "meh" about recent 5e releases?

Parmandur

Legend
If anything I would think it would encourage them to keep it simple, but instead the convoluted plots and ex-machina devices (and, silly, jaeger endings [SKT and OotA], keep coming :) )
Simple isnt always what works best for DMs, though.
 

Retreater

Adventurer
It frankly takes a cynical and jaded individual to not feel some excitement over the upcoming 5e releases.
I mean, I guess that's me. The upcoming announced releases include: a reprint of arguably the worst received 5e adventure [Tyranny of Dragons]; a joke boxed set for a comedy starter set that's more of a novelty product [Rick & Morty]; an adventure dealing with contracts with devils and invasions - which I'll admit I can see the appeal of - but to me it's just a little on the bleak and edgy side [Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus]; and a campaign sourcebook that is only going to be useful to people who don't already have campaigns they're running - more likely in other campaign worlds [Eberron].

I think that's it for the rest of the year. Of the ones that I listed, only the Avernus has any appeal to me, and I don't think I'd want to run it.

And before that we had a couple other joke releases, starter sets, and an adventure compilation reprint. It's been a very "off" year for D&D for me. But that's all I can say: "for me." If you love it, great!
 

Parmandur

Legend
I mean, I guess that's me. The upcoming announced releases include: a reprint of arguably the worst received 5e adventure [Tyranny of Dragons]; a joke boxed set for a comedy starter set that's more of a novelty product [Rick & Morty]; an adventure dealing with contracts with devils and invasions - which I'll admit I can see the appeal of - but to me it's just a little on the bleak and edgy side [Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus]; and a campaign sourcebook that is only going to be useful to people who don't already have campaigns they're running - more likely in other campaign worlds [Eberron].

I think that's it for the rest of the year. Of the ones that I listed, only the Avernus has any appeal to me, and I don't think I'd want to run it.

And before that we had a couple other joke releases, starter sets, and an adventure compilation reprint. It's been a very "off" year for D&D for me. But that's all I can say: "for me." If you love it, great!
The Eberron book is of use in other settings: new Class, new Races, Group Patrons, adventure generation tools and maps, monsters.

having a Shifter Artificer working for a newspaper fighting living spells can fit in a lot of different worlds.
 

Xenonnonex

Explorer
I mean, I guess that's me. The upcoming announced releases include: a reprint of arguably the worst received 5e adventure [Tyranny of Dragons]; a joke boxed set for a comedy starter set that's more of a novelty product [Rick & Morty]; an adventure dealing with contracts with devils and invasions - which I'll admit I can see the appeal of - but to me it's just a little on the bleak and edgy side [Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus]; and a campaign sourcebook that is only going to be useful to people who don't already have campaigns they're running - more likely in other campaign worlds [Eberron].

I think that's it for the rest of the year. Of the ones that I listed, only the Avernus has any appeal to me, and I don't think I'd want to run it.

And before that we had a couple other joke releases, starter sets, and an adventure compilation reprint. It's been a very "off" year for D&D for me. But that's all I can say: "for me." If you love it, great!
They have said they are going to uncrapify the Tiamat adventure. Which may mean a change in view and in review towards it. Kobold Press have since hopefully learned from working on Ghosts of Saltmarsh.
I do not consider the joke sets to be part of the main line up.
You should give Descent into Avernus a chance. At least listen to the reviews as they come out.

And Eberron is looking to have quite a substantial offering. The beauty of a lot of the 5e releases has been setting agnostic material or easy portability.

The Essentials Kit is looking like a winner and more importantly is a product that Wizards have put together from listening to the wants of the public. We need more products like this.
 
having a Shifter Artificer working for a newspaper fighting living spells can fit in a lot of different worlds.
… such as? I mean, er… Dresden Files, maybe...?

...mind you, I'm running an adventure set in Eberron (OK, Eberron's hypothetical, diesel-punk future), right now.

And, yes, the Artificer is a long over-due and welcome addition to 5e. (Though I don't see the need to prioritize it ahead of Psion and Warlord - it /is/ just another archanist in a game that already has 4 all-arcane-all-the-time classes - I'll still take it, thankyouverymuch.)
 

Parmandur

Legend
… such as? I mean, er… Dresden Files, maybe...?

...mind you, I'm running an adventure set in Eberron (OK, Eberron's hypothetical, diesel-punk future), right now.

And, yes, the Artificer is a long over-due and welcome addition to 5e. (Though I don't see the need to prioritize it ahead of Psion and Warlord - it /is/ just another archanist in a game that already has 4 all-arcane-all-the-time classes - I'll still take it, thankyouverymuch.)
Planescape, Forgotten Realms, Spelljammer, Ravenloft, much homebrew...
 

Paul Farquhar

Adventurer
The Eberron book is of use in other settings: new Class, new Races, Group Patrons, adventure generation tools and maps, monsters.

having a Shifter Artificer working for a newspaper fighting living spells can fit in a lot of different worlds.
I'm a little bit dubious about the generality of your example, but I know for a fact that several Warforged have been sighted in the Forgotten Realms.

To assume a setting book is only useful if you are using that setting is to miss the point.
 

Retreater

Adventurer
I'm just not big on campaign setting books. Honestly there is a ton of story and information, and I have a difficult time piecing it together and bringing it to life. And most of the time there is someone in the group ready to correct me because they've been reading the novels for decades. But to me it's just a bunch of unpronounceable proper nouns - the cities, factions, rulers, and other NPCs all meld together in a meaningless stew of vowels and consonants. I'd likely feel the same way about a Dark Sun, Planescape, Birthright, or Kara-Tur book. I'm just not going to get excited about it.
Now an Eberron adventure path that has all the information about the setting that I need to tell that particular story? A pulp adventure featuring a magical train robbery, going through dinosaur lands, recovering artifacts from a lost war while being pursued by an army of warforged? I would LOVE that. (I don't even know if that's what Eberron is, but you get the idea.)
Or to use a real example. "Curse of Strahd" = yes. "Big ol Ravenloft Campaign Guide" = no.
"Descent into Avernus" is a soft "maybe." If I hear good things about it, I'll probably thumb through it. But it's not a Day One, excited-to-get-it purchase. Hence why I say "meh." Not that these are bad releases (for me). Just not exciting ones.
 

Greg K

Adventurer
Well... Xanathars might very well be the single most successful book out side of the core.
What I also find telling is that Xanathar's was popular despite, imo, not setting a very high bar in terms of quality and the amount of worthwhile content-ommv
 

Enrico Poli1

Explorer
I am happy with the new releases.

I'm really excited at Descent into Avernus: basically a Planescape adventure.

I really like the sandboxy nature of each adventure, rightfully a mini-setting in itself, and the fact that a DM can connect them.

I'm also happy about Eberron - I'm not a huge fan, but at least WotC is beginning to write down different settings.

So I think WotC are on the right path.
 

S'mon

Legend
Heck, one of the official Dragon Heist related steaming games from WotC included a Harper front in Waterdeep disguised as a conspiracy theory tabloid.
Looking through the Essentials Kit adventure, I noticed they're amping up the Ye Olde West stuff even more than before - the NPC pics especially look like they belong in Deadlands.
 
The Forgotten Realms has printing, and newspapers.
This is starting to slide from "you should be excited about Eberron" (which, yeah, a bit) towards "you should just forget about the Realms." ;P
Greg K said
What I also find telling is that Xanathar's was popular despite, imo, not setting a very high bar in terms of quality and the amount of worthwhile content-ommv,

Disagreed entirely.
So it /wasn't/ popular?
;P
Seriously, though, X's set a higher bar for amount of worthwhile content (I'm guessing that means player options) than SCAG had.
 

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