WotC Anyone Else Tired of the Wizards Bashing?

[EzekielRaiden]

Bashing feels like a thing that happens. I wish the bashing wasn't so incessantly tied to repeated hyperbole. Complaining about the hyperbole might just prolong threads on bashing.

How else can people who disagree with the outrage jump onto their own outrage train though? Can't get that sweet, sweet catharsis if you don't let yourself get worked up about how worked up all these wrong people are.

 

[Raiztt]

This is where the exaggeration come in. They’re effectively performing bailiff work in this case. They probably look pretty hench because you don’t knock on peoples doors (some of whom are going to be dangerous) unless you know how to handle yourself. This doesn’t mean they were sent there to beat him up. Theres no evidence that I’ve seen that they were armed, or if they were certainly not that there was any intention to use force. There’s no evidence that they went after his wife… that’s all pure hyperbole to try and make the leaker seem vulnerable and make people outraged.

Hired muscle? It’s flawed, I’m not buying it.

Apparently process servers are also hired goons/muscle/pinkertons

(sarcasm)

 

[mamba]

When Hasbro investors started to become aware of it and started asking questions, at that point the juice wasn't worth the squeeze anymore.

no idea how aware they were, the stock price certainly showed no sign of them caring either way

 

[TheSword]

If you get terrorized by someone telling you that you possibly are in legal trouble (and what the maximum sentence for that could be) over not returning the cards you should not have in the first place but refuse to give back, then that is on you.

First of all, you could have returned them when they contacted you, did you expect they just go away after you tell them ‘no’?

Second, I would not have been terrorized, and neither was the guy from what I have heard of him. They had a not so friendly chat, nothing I would not shrug off. The guy never believed that legal ‘threat’ and I agree that was a stretch, so what.

If you cannot have a ‘talking to’ don’t try to play hardball.

It definitely smacks of entitlement to think you can make money streaming leaks of someone else’s work then stream about how disgusted you are that someone asks you to stop. Particularly after being given replacement product… the most polite house invasion of all time.

 

[gorice]

I agree with this, but ‘what people want’ is not the same as ‘what WotC promised’

Well, this is a whole can of worms, so I'll just say that I think WotC has worked to create a big tent, if nothing else. Exhibit A: the OGL.

In some ways, I'd agree. But I do think others have made good arguments for why having a lingua franca amongst RPG players is a good thing and it's hard to deny that D&D serves this purpose. When explaining a new game to players, I frequently make comparisons to D&D, not by arguing that this game is better, but by using a common frame of reference which facilitates communication. And I think there have been a lot of excellent games released over the last 50 years which are not patterned after D&D, but none of those have the cultural footprint of the dreaded Gygax. (He's like a 30 HD monster.)

If these boards have taught me anything, it's that the lingua Franca is actually just babble. We're using the same words, but we're not speaking the same language.

 

[MGibster]

If these boards have taught me anything, it's that the lingua Franca is actually just babble. We're using the same words, but we're not speaking the same language.

¿Que?

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

I love D&D but I am not happy with any things by WotC. Let's cross the fingers to not find new troubles about the future Itxalan. The brand needs prestige, and this may be damaged by certain mistakes or morally questionable actions. In our land we say "Caesar's wife not only has to be honest but also to seem it".

They want our money, but als they need our trust. They shouldn't test our saint patiente. This is a hobby, not a staple product. If we don't enjoy enough, then we will spend our money in other thing.

Let's try to keep the good sense. When bigger is a megacorporation then there are more "sharks" in the top dome. And they "sharks" among the CEOs chairs can cause troubles because they believe we are dumb and easy to be tricked. When more money is moved in a business, it's harder to find honest people. Somebody tells "urban legends" about the honest people aren't wellcome in the top spheres, because these can't be blackmailed or brided.

D&D is the superstar in the TTRPG industry, but they could lose popularity and the top if they make mistakes again.

We can't trust blindly into big megacorporations, even when these sell toys for children, but either into people who are always telling horrible things about some companies but not about others. Let's recover the good sense.

"You shouldn't believe all the things said in internet" said by Cristopher Colombus, padawan of the master jedi Flash Gordon and champion of the pokemon tournament.

 

[billd91]

It definitely smacks of entitlement to think you can make money streaming leaks of someone else’s work then stream about how disgusted you are that someone asks you to stop. Particularly after being given replacement product… the most polite house invasion of all time.

So this is the other side of the coin for this thread. You've got complaints about WotC bashing - and here we have dismissal of someone's reportedly stressful experience. A "polite home invasion" that, according to one source, got his wife crying. Do you normally cry at "polite home invasions"? Or is it possible that the "home invasion" wasn't quite so "polite"?

So on one side, people who constantly bash or complain about WotC.
And on the other side, people who will constantly minimize any shenanigans that WotC pulls.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Bashing feels like a thing that happens. I wish the bashing wasn't so incessantly tied to repeated hyperbole. Complaining about the hyperbole might just prolong threads on bashing.

If I've told you once, I've told you a million times, enough with the hyberbole.

 

[TheSword]

If I've told you once, I've told you a million times, enough with the hyberbole.

What are you talking about? Hyperbole is the best thing in the entire universe!