Anyone know where in the rules it says enhancement bonuses on items are Su abilities?

[Dracuwulf]

Anyone know where in the rules it says enhancement bonuses on items are Su abilities? I saw it somewhere the other day in the DMG but now I can't find it...

 

[Darklone]

????? I see no reason for that.

 

[shilsen]

I'm pretty sure that rule doesn't exist. If they were Su abilities, it would change a few things about them, like making them immune to dispelling (which they can be, suppressing them for 1d4 rounds).

 

[hong]

DMG glossary, p.298, under Spell Resistance: "Extraordinary and supernatural abilities (including enhancement bonuses on magic weapons) are not [subject to SR]".

No, it's not exactly an obvious location.

 

[Darklone]

Wow, a heavy crossbow rule

 

[dcollins]

I believe that line must be incorrect -- as shilsen points out, it's in direct contradiction with the dispel magic example that says "A supressed magic sword is still a sword (a masterwork sword, in fact)."

Nontheless, it also appears in places like 3.0 DMG p. 81 under "Spell Resistance".

 

[hong]

I believe that line must be incorrect -- as shilsen points out, it's in direct contradiction with the dispel magic example that says "A supressed magic sword is still a sword (a masterwork sword, in fact)."

Nontheless, it also appears in places like 3.0 DMG p. 81 under "Spell Resistance".

There's no contradiction with dispel magic. You can't _dispel_ a magic sword, in that you cannot turn a magic sword into a non-magical sword. You also can't dispel any other item, eg turn a pair of winged boots into a normal pair of boots. What you can do, however, is suppress the _effects_ they have for 1d4 rounds.

 

[irdeggman]

DMG glossary, p.298, under Spell Resistance: "Extraordinary and supernatural abilities (including enhancement bonuses on magic weapons) are not [subject to SR]".

No, it's not exactly an obvious location.

Basically I think that the first sentence needs to be read "Only spells and spell-like abilities are subject to spell resistance."

It then goes into the sentence you quote. I think the intent was to show that extraordinary, supernatural abilities and enhancement bonuses are not spell like abilities. It only makes sense when you look at what spell resistance is doing and you think of what an enhancement bonus is about. The use of the parens makes it more confusing than it needs to be.

 

[dcollins]

There's no contradiction with dispel magic. You can't _dispel_ a magic sword, in that you cannot turn a magic sword into a non-magical sword.

Sure you can -- that's exactly what "supressed" means when you cast dispel magic on something.

A supressed item becomes nonmagical for the duration of the effect. (PHB, dispel magic).

 

[Caliban]

DMG glossary, p.298, under Spell Resistance: "Extraordinary and supernatural abilities (including enhancement bonuses on magic weapons) are not [subject to SR]".

No, it's not exactly an obvious location.

What does "not subject to Spell Resistance" have to do with Dispel Magic?