D&D 4E Anyone make a Binder class for 4E?

[Eldritch_Lord]

Ok, You're taking it a little different defection than. For my binder, there are three levels of vestiges: Heroic, Paragon, and Epic. There are four vestiges for each tier, one is a controller, one defender, one striker, and once leader. You can only bind one vestige of each tier.

That works, but I'm a bit wary about letting any class have the ability to fill more than two roles. I suppose it's not as bad if you can only do one at a time rather than two at a time, though.

When you have bound a vestige, you gain all of the vestige's powers (at-will, encounter, daily, and utility) up to your level as well as class features based on that vestige (to help you fill the your role).

Interesting...so you're making a whole tier's worth of powers per vestige? It's not all that many, true, but that's 11 powers for the heroic tier alone! Are you planning to have some "vestige-neutral" powers that everyone gets to fill in a few levels? If not, how are you doing that many powers?

 

[tombowings]

I'm not using the old vestiges. I'm having four vestiges for each tier. When you bind a vestige you get attack powers: XXX, XXX, XXX, ect. up to your level. So it's no more powers than any of the other classes.

Utility powers have vestige neutral.

 

[Cringer_luvr]

Awesome stuff guys...keep the Ideas flowing!!! Im likeing em all so far!

 

[Nifft]

It's on my list, too.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Eldritch_Lord]

I'm not using the old vestiges. I'm having four vestiges for each tier. When you bind a vestige you get attack powers: XXX, XXX, XXX, ect. up to your level. So it's no more powers than any of the other classes.

Utility powers have vestige neutral.

Ah, okay. I know that you'd be aiming for the same number of powers as every class; I was referring to the difficulty of getting 11 powers themed around a single vestige. If you're making up new ones, though, and only associating attack powers with them, that's only about 6 powers each--more than the 3e vestiges have, but quite a bit more manageable to create.

 

[tombowings]

Also, since i will have less vestiges over all, their portfolios are growing.

 

[Dalamar]

I'd probably do it so that the Binder chooses one vestige (possibly multiple at higher tiers) and gets bonuses from those to generic powers he chooses, somewhat similar to current Warlock stuff but changed daily.

 

[Cringer_luvr]

I cant wait to see your work on this...but hope others continue to toss there ideas around on here too.

 

[generalhenry]

step one: a list of vestiges by role

 

[tombowings]

I'd probably do it so that the Binder chooses one vestige (possibly multiple at higher tiers) and gets bonuses from those to generic powers he chooses, somewhat similar to current Warlock stuff but changed daily.

If that's what you're looking for, I'd just play a warlock. There would be little to no difference in a binder as you describe and a warlock (except for maybe roles).


I'm still listening for ideas everyone. Nothing I have is set in stone, so go ahead and spit it all out. If you have any good vestige ideas I would love to hear them.