AoO and ranged weapons.

KenM

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Say I have a ready ranged weapon. If an enemy comes into my sight, say 5 squares away, how come I can't take an attack of opretunty with my weapon?
 

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Because you can't take AoO with ranged weapons. There may be a feat or ability someplace that allows you to but I'm not familiar with any.

Now why they don't allow AoO with ranged weapons is probably due to several reasons, some based on "realism" and others based on balance, complexity etc.
 

Because you can only take an AoO if someone provokes an AoO in an area that you threaten. Range weapons are considered to be *not* threatening an area.

Belbarrus
 

Ranged weapons don't threaten squares, unless you have certain Prestige Class abilities. If you don't threaten, you can't take AoOs. You can still ready an action for when someone does something specific, of course.

As to why, an AoO represents a quick jab taken through lowered defenses while the victim is busy concentrating on something else. This isn't really possible with a bow.
 


KenM said:
Say I have a ready ranged weapon. If an enemy comes into my sight, say 5 squares away, how come I can't take an attack of opretunty with my weapon?

Also note that if an enemy comes within 5' of you and you try to shoot at him, HE'll get an AoO against YOU (since using a ranged weapon provokes and AoO).

Don't want to sidetrack, but would character A in the following situation get an AoO?

Character B has a bow and readied an action to shoot character A as he comes around the corner (going from A to A). Since using a ranged weapon provokes an AoO, would A get that AoO (just before B shoots him with his bow)?

Code:
_______
 A--->[b]A[/b]|
¯¯¯¯¯|B|

Slim
 
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Re: Re: AoO and ranged weapons.

Magic Slim said:


Also note that if an enemy comes within 5' of you and you try to shoot at him, HE'll get an AoO against YOU (since using a ranged weapon provokes and AoO).

Don't want to sidetrack, but would character A in the following situation get an AoO?

Character B has a bow and readied an action to shoot character A as he comes around the corner (going from A to A). Since using a ranged weapon provokes an AoO, would A get that AoO (just before B shoots him with his bow)?

Code:
_______
 A--->[b]A[/b]|
¯¯¯¯¯|B|

Slim

I would rule that the attack happend when "A" is moving to the last square and so "B" has 1/2 cover. There fore "B" does not draw a AoO from "A".

"A" would not get the 1/2 cover because "B" is not attacking with a melee weapon and is shooting around the corner a bit.

Plus the attack is trigered just before the action that trigers it so the above fits in perfectly.
 

Makes sense.

What happens when you forget the walls. Say for some obscure reason, B has readied an action to shoot the first person to come within 10' of him. It just so happens that A is the first person to approach, and that he wields a ranged weapon.

Would A get an AoO vs. B before his readied action?

Slim
 

Magic Slim said:
Makes sense.

What happens when you forget the walls. Say for some obscure reason, B has readied an action to shoot the first person to come within 10' of him. It just so happens that A is the first person to approach, and that he wields a ranged weapon.

Would A get an AoO vs. B before his readied action?

Slim

Thats a thoughy.

Still the readied action is trigered when "A" starts to move from 15' to 10'. When "A" reaches 10', the readied ranged attack as already happened and so no AoO is trigered.
 

Because you can only take an AoO if someone provokes an AoO in an area that you threaten. Range weapons are considered to be *not* threatening an area.

What?? What kind of crap is this? (Not bashing on you, but the rules.) If I'm holding a loaded bow or crossbow, and I see someone nearby casting a spell (or doing some other thing that provokes an AOO, like drinking a potion), I should be able to get a shot at him. We've always played that way, and it hasn't presented any real problems in the game.
 

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