Apes with claw attacks?

[mvincent]

Yes but to be kind that TV show was also a joke of the highest order. Much like Mythbusters it's fun to watch but there's very little science in what they do. Nothing wrong as entertainment but for realism, minimal value aside from the occasional fluke.

I've still gotta surmise that they conducted a more in-depth analysis on gorilla claws than any of us here. But if you have better scientific knowledge about gorilla fingernails, my mind can certainly be changed.

 

[Hypersmurf]

I've still gotta surmise that they conducted a more in-depth analysis on gorilla claws than any of us here. But if you have better scientific knowledge about gorilla fingernails, my mind can certainly be changed.

I can't honestly say they scream 'claw attack' to me.

-Hyp.

 

[frankthedm]

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Originally Posted by Hypersmurf
I can't honestly say they scream 'claw attack' to me.
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As was said before, these are not the apes we know as the endangered species of our world. These are the archetype of the Killer Ape myth given life, The Very myth many conservationists struggle to divorce from the Gorilla. The White apes of Chriton's Congo and The Man Eating Haunter of the Pits from McFarlane toys are among the most recent depictions of this creature, birthed of embellished tales of Safari centuries ago and still dwelling in pulp fantasy and RPGs.

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Originally Posted by mvincent
I've still gotta surmise that they conducted a more in-depth analysis on gorilla claws than any of us here.
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Nope. no research is really needed. Animals in a fantasy setting should conform more to myth and supestition than to modern ideas.

 

[Wolfspider]

Point taken about the killer apes.

If, however, I wanted a more gorilla-like beasty, I'd imagine that slam attacks would make sense.

 

[Thurbane]

Yep, seen this discussed a couple of times before.

The ape in D&D 3.5 seems to be more along the lines of the early explorers "killer ape" tales than a real world gorilla. It also has it's roots from back in the 1E "carnivorous ape" entry.

I can't see any problem if you want to give it slam attack to make it more realistic, though...

 

[Tonguez]

(also the Mangani in the Tarzan books).

Actually it was the Bolgani (ranslated as Gorilla) who were potrayed as more ferocious 'killers' than were the Mangani. The Mangani were portrayed fierce short tempered creatures but no more than any other beasts and in fact had temprements and lifestyles more reminiscent of chimps. Of course the most deadly apes oin Tarzanverse were the degenerate Men of Opar...

oh and real Apes bash they do not use claws deliberately of course DnD apes as carniverous killers has already been established

 

[mvincent]

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I love that figure... I put wings on it and used it as an advanced Nalfeshnee (I also have some smaller King-Kong figures for use as regular Nalfeshnee).

Nope. no research is really needed. Animals in a fantasy setting should conform more to myth and supestition than to modern ideas.

Agreed (as mentioned above), but this (and Hype's subsequent reply) was regarding HeavenShallBurn's statement that real world great apes could claw things.

 

[frankthedm]

I love that figure... I put wings on it and used it as an advanced Nalfeshnee (I also have some smaller King-Kong figures for use as regular Nalfeshnee).

Say, what set of wings did you use? The only sets that come to mind that come close to fiiting non comicly are the Dragons's Series 2 Fire dragon and the Mage Knight's Huge Griffon.

 

[mvincent]

Say, what set of wings did you use? The only sets that come to mind that come close to fiiting non comicly are the Dragons's Series 2 Fire dragon and the Mage Knight's Huge Griffon.

Well, they are supposed to be a bit comical (i.e. "A nalfeshnee can fly despite its small wings"). I tried the Dragon series 2 wings, but they were actually too big (i.e. realistically sized). I end up buying a winged dove from a craft store and ripping the wings off (then fouling them up a bit with felt pens).