Are reviewers evil?

[Wulf Ratbane]

I'll ignore Wulf's follow up post since his post is silly and does not warrant a response beyond that.

Finally, I accept that Pennywiz will not agree with my position in advance, so there's no need to post a repudiation, unless Wulf's right of course...

Gee... Ya think?

 

[rounser]

If that's not taking responsibilty, what is?

Hold on a sec, there, Larry - I wasn't saying Psion wasn't being professional. I repeat - I was objecting to the subtext of what you were saying.

 

[pennywiz]

Gee... Ya think?

Mocking someone doesn't invalidate their opinion either. It merely shows how you deal with the opinion of someone in the public who has chosen to speak his mind and disagrees with you.

You are also presenting yourself as a professional, no?

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

Mocking someone doesn't invalidate their opinion either.

I'm not mocking you, I put in the little smiley, see?

If anything is going to invalidate your opinion, it will be your own tenacious but ultimately futile grip on the last word in this thread.

You are also presenting yourself as a professional, no?

It's safe to say I consistently present myself here at ENworld as nothing other than the genuine me.

Wulf

 

[Psion]

Larry, Wulf, Oni, rounser. Thanks.

I suspect that exhibited by the level of Pennywiz's vehemence that he has something against me. He is not a casual passerby who chose this very specific note to pick out and make into a big issue.

Pennywiz. If you are willing to belittle my reputation, why don't you share your public ID with us so we can have all the cards on the table?

 

[Mark Chance]

I'm taking this thread to...

An old man and an old woman are sitting on the porch of the old folks' home talking. The old woman says:

"I can guess how old you are."

The old man says:

"No you can't."

The old woman replies:

"Can to. I'll prove it. Stand up."

The old man stands up in front of the old woman.

"Hmm. Not quite sure," says the old woman. "Take off your shirt."

The old man takes off his shirt.

"Nope, nope. Still not quite sure. Drop your pants," says the old woman.

So, the old man drops his pants and stands in front of the old woman, shirtless and in his boxers.

"Got it!" exclaims the old woman. "You're seventy-two!"

"That's amazing!" says the old man. "How'd you guess how old I was?"

The old woman replies, "You told me this morning!"

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Maybe you didn't Psion, but the unwritten rule says that he should stay mum. You've got nothing to do with that, it's just the way things are.

I think you are interpreting things wrong. No one says a publisher shouldnt return a comment when he thinks he is being treated unfairly. At best what Monte has said is not based on morals but on business. Monte tells a writer not to reply for moral reaons but because in the end he is challenging a customer in front of other customers. Is "the customer is always right" true? Of course not, customers are wrong all the time. IT is not worth it to argue though because you generate bad press and lose more biz than it is worth.

The problem here specifically with Jim Ward is he is ranting about reviews when it is generally accepted by everyone that he puts out subpar products. To make things worse he has to misprepresent a repected member of this community to make his point.

If this rant had come from James Wyatt, or Monte Cook, or even our local Mr. Ratbane the responce would have been different. They are all known for making quality products and thus we look at them different. We wouldnt be seeing a frustrated writer screaming because he is not getting the respect he thinks he deserves in the industry.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

You did not start a thread countering statements by Jim Ward. You started a thread attributing by implication that Jim Ward says/thinks reviewers are evil. That has nothing to do with rebutting anything at all. Your first post does nothing to refute or rebut anything.

It is disingenuous to say that you began the thread in that manner when it is easy to read the first post (and the title of the thread) and see that you did no such thing.

What you did was point people to the article and make the implication. Saying (now) it is obvious that he says/thinks reviewers are evil just furthers the offense. If it was not your motivation, but only the result, then you should apologize for the offense and move on rather than defend it. Highly unprofessional.

Ward quotes Psion out of context to make a point, a point he could only make through the subterfuge of quoting him out of context and you say that Psion is the bad guy?

Do your paychecks have a JW at the bottom of them?

 

[Psion]

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[EricNoah]

I think we're done here. Thanks for playing!