Are Sorcerers really that bad?

[TheAuldGrump]

Well, except for the sorcerer, the old metamagics are obsolete in any case. They only really become interesting for level 15+ Wizards, and that's a bit too long to wait. That's why there have been so many variants on the "Sudden" metamagic style of feats - Rods, Sudden feats, Divine Metamagic, and now an Incarnum-based metamagic.

The Sudden feats are good for wizards, but limiting. Once/day is useful (and I've seen enough Sudden Empowered Maximised fireballs to know that), but the resource depletion because of it is severe. Sorcerers get much more use from the regular metamagic feats.

Cheers!

I partially disagree with this for one or two spells, even with the 'full round cast' for sorcerers using metamagic - Widen spell is bloody useful with fireball for example and is a 6th level spell useable at Wiz. lvl 11. Then again I tend to have mass battles now and again, where that feat really shines.

The Auld Grump