Are they replacing D&D's blacktop playground with foam?

Asmor

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A couple things have me a bit worried...

1: The mention that when they release half-orcs on DDI, they're going to try and change their assumed origin, with the specific mention that currently the origin of half-orcs (i.e. often the result of rape) is something they do not wish to dwell on.

2: The language in the OGL announcement about community standards and such.

Now, one of the big problems with the SRD at first was the glut of crappy products. It sounds like that may be what they're aiming at with my second point... Nonetheless, it sounds like an excuse for censorship, and I'd be a lot more comfortable if they'd say specifically the intent, if not the language, of the standards. Is this supposed to stop bad products, or is it supposed to stop products with objectionable content (like the Book of Erotic Fantasy; not my cup of tea, but I'm glad it was able to be published).

I'm just worried that it seems like they're trying to make D&D "family-friendly" by covering all the sharp edges with foam rubber. Maybe it's an irrational worry, but I can't help how I feel.

They made reference to one case where the community standards clause was enforced, which was supposedly resolved amicably. Does anyone know what that's about?

Ok, I apologize for my inane ramblings. I'm sure it's much ado about nothing.
 

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I wouldn't fret about community standards. Scott Rouse was really clear about this on the call; it's no big deal, and not really any different than now. I think of it as the "Book of Erotic Fantasy" clause, and I doubt it'll come into play with any sort of frequency.
 

If so, it's pretty selective foam. Only a little while ago we had a fair number of posts on how 4e was pandering not to the family friendly crowd, but the "Evil is Kewl!" crowd. This was based on the introduction of the tiefling race and the warlock class. Certainly, they haven't been at all shy on the darker subjects involving evil magic, fiends and the like.
 




S'mon said:
Yeah, my impression is that WoTC's stance is "Devil worship OK. Sexism not OK."

Devil worship was a moral scare of the 80s, a false thing. Only the (american protestant) religious right is caring and the satanist abuses cases stories where debunked.

Sexism, including rape, is a VERY real and serious matter.

Strawman arguemnt.
 

Piratecat said:
I wouldn't fret about community standards. Scott Rouse was really clear about this on the call; it's no big deal, and not really any different than now. I think of it as the "Book of Erotic Fantasy" clause, and I doubt it'll come into play with any sort of frequency.

Well, there were some good parts in that book that I use .... gave me some really good ideas for campaign development and torments i could use on the PCs...

No, seriously, It was crap, but at least it was fun reading. :D
 


The Ubbergeek said:
Devil worship was a moral scare of the 80s, a false thing. Only the (american protestant) religious right is caring and the satanist abuses cases stories where debunked.

Sexism, including rape, is a VERY real and serious matter.

Strawman arguemnt.
Agreed. Devil worship is pure fantasy, while sexism & rape are very real and very harmful to people in real life. Not to mention claiming 4e states "devil worship is okay" would be a falsehood, but I have a feeling this discussion will devolve into "Warlocks are evil" again.
 

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