Are you buying a DDI subscription?

[DaveMage]

Actually, Dragon 367 was 75 pages, which seems about the same as Paizo's Dragon minus the ad pages. (I looked through Dragon #345, #353, & #355, picked at random.) Paizo's came out slightly ahead, but only by a couple of pages.

The ads were a feature, IMO--not useless space.

 

[mhacdebhandia]

I would buy a subscription if they would let me.

Seems they don't like my wife's American Visa and they won't let me put in the state for my Australian Amex, so they're out of luck for now.

 

[Lord Xtheth]

I've just signed up!

I can't wait to see my money put to use on the things Wizards said it would do at DnD launch.

 

[Hussar]

I wonder how happy Paizo would have been if 35% of 3e players had bought subscriptions? I would say that Dragon and/or Dungeon NEVER was bought by more than about a third of D&D players even at it's height in the early 80's. If they're selling subs to that many gamers that's just made of win.

And, if true 100% justifies going to the online format. The whole point of a magazine is to reach as many people as possible. If 1/3 of the current editions players are buying into the subscription and stick with it? That's about as good as you could possibly hope.

 

[Shemeska]

If 1/3 of the current editions players are buying into the subscription and stick with it? That's about as good as you could possibly hope.

And probably nowhere near the reality. 1/3 of Enworlders subscribing (of those who answered the poll) probably isn't representative of the entire player base of potential subscribers.

But regardless, we'll have to wait a few months or a year to see how things turn out, or not. If the major online tools like the gametable end up as perpetual vaporware, the subscriptions may peak and crash. We'll see.

 

[Scribble]

I just subscribed today. I'm very happy with the magazines, and actually have used a number of things from them.

I've never been a big pre-made module user, but since Dungeon seems to have new (or re-tooled) monsters in it constantly, it's basically a monthly new monster source... I dig it.

The bonus tools are cool, and I've used them since they popped up.

The other stuff that's supposed to be coming... eh... I don't care that much about that stuff.

 

[Imaro]

I wonder how happy Paizo would have been if 35% of 3e players had bought subscriptions? I would say that Dragon and/or Dungeon NEVER was bought by more than about a third of D&D players even at it's height in the early 80's. If they're selling subs to that many gamers that's just made of win.

Bolded mine: Uhm I realize we can interpret the data anyway we want...but I don't think 35% of ENworld constitutes anywhere near 35% of the entire player base. YMMV and all that.

And, if true 100% justifies going to the online format. The whole point of a magazine is to reach as many people as possible. If 1/3 of the current editions players are buying into the subscription and stick with it? That's about as good as you could possibly hope.

Well allow me to throw another interpretation out there for a minute. If enworld only represents a subset of the player base, yet is the concentrated hardcore/online gamers...It could be interpreted as pretty bad that your online offering only appeals to around 35% of a subset of total gamers that seems to make up your targeted market. Just food for thought.

 

[Hussar]

And probably nowhere near the reality. 1/3 of Enworlders subscribing (of those who answered the poll) probably isn't representative of the entire player base of potential subscribers.

But regardless, we'll have to wait a few months or a year to see how things turn out, or not. If the major online tools like the gametable end up as perpetual vaporware, the subscriptions may peak and crash. We'll see.

Oh, totally agree. I did underline the fact that what I was saying is totally hypothetical. But, see below.

Bolded mine: Uhm I realize we can interpret the data anyway we want...but I don't think 35% of ENworld constitutes anywhere near 35% of the entire player base. YMMV and all that.




Well allow me to throw another interpretation out there for a minute. If enworld only represents a subset of the player base, yet is the concentrated hardcore/online gamers...It could be interpreted as pretty bad that your online offering only appeals to around 35% of a subset of total gamers that seems to make up your targeted market. Just food for thought.

Enworld has 70 000 subscribers. Presume for a moment that 35% of those subscribe to the DDI. That's about 25 000 subscribers. That's HALF of what Paizo had, just from En World alone. Never mind the WOTC site, or any other online board (which of course has overlap anyway, but, we're not talking very hard numbers).

Even if the poll only applies to EnWorlders, it's still a win for WOTC. They still wind up with more subscriptions than before.

But, yes, this is entirely 100% blowing smoke. We have no idea if people are telling the truth, or any other points we'd actually need to know to make an informed decision.

I'd love to see this same poll in about 6 months after the new/shiney has worn off.

 

[WhatGravitas]

...haven't voted so far. I'll buy it when they get PayPal running, otherwise I'll pass.

Cheers, LT.

 

[dema]

Dungeon for tweaked monsters (awesome), Dragon for beta testing content and twists on existing classes/races (not bad.)

I'm still waiting for the Digital Table Top. It sucks that I did not play with the Character Generator when it was free, how was it?

The Rules Compendium is still free, and rightfully so.

So who is, and how is anyone planing on printing the damn thing? I think most, like myself will just print the useful pages they need for the campaign/adventure.

I need to invest in a cheap laptop now so I can read the zine on the can, good thing we already have a wireless router.