Ask R&D column - clarification on line of sight, marks and invisibility

Daniel D. Fox

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When it comes to targeting enemies within line of sight, this requirement makes sense for some powers and abilities such as divine challenge—so that it isn't used as a de facto see invisible ("I target the nearest enemy; now show me where he is!"), since by the rules you know if a power worked or not.



How I read this specific line was that you must have line of sight in order to enact marks. In accord, this also means that if an enemy becomes invisible, your mark disappears.

It's how I have always ruled it in my games, but what are other player's and DM's thoughts on this?
 

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How I read this specific line was that you must have line of sight in order to enact marks. In accord, this also means that if an enemy becomes invisible, your mark disappears.

It looks to me like the line is in error - they said "Divine Challenge", but they probably meant "Hunter's Quarry".

Firstly, Divine Challenge does not affect the nearest enemy; it affects one creature in a Close Burst 5. Secondly, Divine Challenge in the PHB makes no mention of line of sight or "which you can see". Thirdly, they're referring to things they updated, and Divine Challenge has no entry in the PHB Updates, whereas Hunter's Quarry was updated from "nearest enemy" to "nearest enemy you can see".

I think the paragraph is a commentary on powers and abilities that say "enemy you can see", rather than a commentary on marks in general. As far as I can tell, a Fighter can mark any enemy he attacks, regardless of whether or not he can see them - Combat Challenge has no line of sight requirement. Invisibility has no effect on the mark.

And to an extent, the same is true for a Paladin, despite the wording in the R&D column... because Divine Challenge bears no relation to the point they're making, despite their calling it by name.

-Hyp.
 

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