Automatic Quicken Spell

[Majoru Oakheart]

EDIT: the feat from complete arcane is sudden quicken. automatic quicken is an epic feat (and sudden quicken doesn't even have a spell level restriction)

If you check the end of complete arcane, you'll find a 3.5 edition version of the epic feat Automatic Quicken Spell, originally from Epic Handbook.

The 3.5 version lets you automatically quicken all 0 and 1st level spells, then each time you take it again, you can quicken another, higher level of spells.

Sudden quicken works sort of the the same, you can use it on ANY level spell, but it only works once per day.

 

[Rkhet]

If you check the end of complete arcane, you'll find a 3.5 edition version of the epic feat Automatic Quicken Spell, originally from Epic Handbook.

The 3.5 version lets you automatically quicken all 0 and 1st level spells, then each time you take it again, you can quicken another, higher level of spells.

Sudden quicken works sort of the the same, you can use it on ANY level spell, but it only works once per day.

Quite a stupid nerf, too. Who the hell's gonna burn an epic feat on it now? Ignore it, I say. Or change it to 2 levels per feat.

 

[Sledge]

Or do it upper krust's way.

 

[RandomPrecision]

They sure didn't make a point of mentioning that anywhere in the 3.5 upgrade of the ELH.

Note that the Epic Level Handbook, and the 3.5 changes to it, are OGL. Complete Arcane is not. I can't say that's an effective way to promulgate a rules change...and it's on page 191, by the appendices. Maybe they don't want to admit the change.

 

[Aurio]

Majoru Oakheart, i just saw it, you're right. However i'm going to stick to the SRD rules, as this is the most stupid feat i've seen in my whole gaming carrier. You need to get this feat 9 times to quicken your 9th level spells (aka "in your dreams baby") while you can do it just as well with 3 improved metamagics and 1 improved spell capacity. Nerfing this feat is just not fair for sorcerers that can't use this alternative due to the casting time increase.

 

[Thanee]

I would also use the unmodified level, because spell slot <> spell level.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

The most ridiculous thing about that newish version of AQS is, that they cripple it and make Sudden Quicken useless via its prerequisites, but don't change anything about the metamagic rods of quicken spell, which are the really broken ones.

Bye
Thanee