Avatar Crisis

[exile]

It makes me think of the Time of Troubles with manga style artwork...of course I'm drunk.

Chad

 

[Arkhandus]

It's when people on a message board don't have enough distinct default pictures next to their names to distinguish between one another.

Heeeheeeheee. Yeah, stop using default avatar pics, people!

Mine's a badly-shrunken snapshot of Vash the Stampede......stupid image wouldn't shrink any better, so the eyes and everything are blurred. And the other pics I took wouldn't shrink small enough without still being too large in file-size. :\

 

[Sol.Dragonheart]

I wouldn't really change anything aside from the deities taking a more active role in the areas they were in during the crisis. As for what happened in the novels, Mystra was destroyed beyond even Aos power to return, and he left the others as they were since they caused the whole crisis to begin with by stealing the tablets.

Many people criticize the overall work, but I like Cyric, I like Kelemvor, and Mystra stayed essentially the same. Since the only truly lasting effects from the books are the pantheon changes and a few dead magic zones, and since I like the pantheon changes, I consider it a positive influence on the development of the Realms. So, I wouldn't really make any significant changes to the event as far as the impact it had.

 

[Li Shenron]

The Evil deities thread got me to thinking: If you could redo the Avatar crisis, as part of your campaign, what would you fix?

"Avatar crisis" immediately made me picture winged creatures with silver skin crying at a tavern bar with a bottle of vodka in their hand...

 

[Milagroso]

I use the canon provided by the Avatar Trilogy (or Time of Troubles). I didn't particularly enjoy the books, but I liked where they were going with it. Its interesting to me how they constructed this whole malarkey about multiple deities and an impotent overlord and some silly tablets of (take two and call in the morning) fate.

I did like the whole bit about powerful mortals slaying godly avatars and becoming gods themselves. And personally, I liked Cyric.

I was a little disappointed that they brought up Kelemvor's lycanthropy for a bit and then continued on with the story like it never existed.

Anyway, I wouldn't change it. But also take into consideration that the first time I played D&D was when these books came out and it became *my D&D*. Sort of like how if you never saw ST:TOS or ST:TNG until after you saw SW: Voyager you might relate to it better.

Okay, bad example forget I said it.

However, I am plotting a 2nd Godswar in which sides will be taken and many gods will fall and the battlefield will be the Prime Material plane.

 

[Nepenthe]

Aaah, that's what it was.

Well, it gave us Baldurs Gate II, and therefore was not an entirely bad thing.

Cheers, -- N

QFT

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Aaah, that's what it was.

Well, it gave us Baldurs Gate II, and therefore was not an entirely bad thing.

Cheers, -- N

Without the ToT, I might not be playing D&D.

 

[wingsandsword]

Anyway, I wouldn't change it. But also take into consideration that the first time I played D&D was when these books came out and it became *my D&D*. Sort of like how if you never saw ST:TOS or ST:TNG until after you saw SW: Voyager you might relate to it better.

Same, the Time of Troubles/Avatar Crisis has always been a part of the Forgotten Realms to me, since it had happened years before I found D&D in the '90's. The fact that the first Realms campaign I played in was set during the Crisis with PC's, and the second campaign I played in the Realms being set in the aftermath (involving Waukeen's disappearance, the Church of Mystra dealing with their deity being reincarnated as NG, instead of LN and the issues that brought, and the power vacuums brought by Bhaal sucking the life out of all the Assassins that worshipped him) also cemented that fact.

Would I have done it any different? Well, I might have changed some details (or run it as a campaign and let the PC's change details), but I'd pretty much leave it the same.

 

[Razz]

I wouldn't change anything, I would simply add to it.

In other words, I'd have like to see a folio done by the designers containing information about what ALL the gods did during the Avatar Crisis. What was the Elven Pantheon doing? What about the halfling and dwarven deities? What did the Orc deities do? Gruumsh had to have caused destruction SOMEWHERE! What about the Draconic and Giant deities? The Yuan-ti deities? The Seelie Court deities? The other Mulhorandi deities? The gnome pantheon?

Outside the Faerunian and Mulhorand pantheons, no mention of what the other deities were up to during such a time is mentioned. I know one elven deity and one dwarven deity went at each other over a misunderstanding. Can't remember which ones, but that's about it.

 

[wingsandsword]

That makes me wonder, since the Time of Troubles was sparked by an action by two Faerunian deities, and appears to be mainly a conflict within the Faerunian pantheon, were the other pantheons of Abeir Toril with negligible presence in Faerun also affected?

Was the Celestial Bureaucracy of Kara Tur confined to the Material Plane (Shang Ti having to explain to those below him that even he has somebody he's accountable to?), what about the Enlightened Gods of Zakhara (being cast down to the Material world because of the actions of barbarian deities, and given how the gods of Zakhara are very distant and mysterious and don't even like revealing their alignments, how would being forced to take physical form and walk among their followers affect them)?