B09S displaced Fey-book or Giant-book

[RichGreen]

I have most of the non-WotC books on fey. I have no intention of wasting money on a WotC version that cannot begin to address the problems already existent in the [creature] system, let alone do a good job on addressing the complexities of the fey.

Which is the best one? Might pick something up while the RPG Now sale is on.


Richard

 

[Nepenthe]

I've been burned by nearly all the non-Paizo 3rd party material I've ever looked at (I have, I think, 2 or 3 other products I don't mind having spent the money on), so I'm really reluctant to spend any money on anything at this point (plus I just bought a car ) but if there's a preview somewhere or something I'd check it out.

I think Paizo falls under 2nd party, not 3rd party

 

[Mouseferatu]

Instead of setting up hit dice and skill points and so on based on various types and then try to work all that out into a sensible CR system, they would have started with the CR system and balanced monster creation around it. It sounded, essentially, like they were talking about creating monster classes based on type and balancing them at every level against one another, with each level of a monster type being the CR score.

See, I've been talking about something like this for a while, and I'd love to see it (or even help design it). It's not a viable "tweak" to 3.5--it would require a complete rebuild from the ground up--but I think it'd be worth it. I know it would be tough, and it still wouldn't be perfect by any stretch, but I'd love a system where (for the most part) level = HD = CR, full stop.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

See, I've been talking about something like this for a while, and I'd love to see it (or even help design it). It's not a viable "tweak" to 3.5--it would require a complete rebuild from the ground up--but I think it'd be worth it. I know it would be tough, and it still wouldn't be perfect by any stretch, but I'd love a system where (for the most part) level = HD = CR, full stop.

I agree. CR is a great tool -- as is a more meaningful typing system -- but we're clearly living with the 1.0 version of the idea. The next major version will likely be much more useful.

 

[Ltheb Silverfrond]

I would prefer the Giant book to the fey book. Fey in D20 are weak, and while I would prefer them to get some supplements, Giants, with their Ecology, Society, etc, can be a bit more campaign centric than fey, which I see as more of one-off adventure or encounter material. I know there is more info on giants in previous editions, but I would like to see where Wizards takes giants.

 

[IanB]

I think Paizo falls under 2nd party, not 3rd party

No, no, I'm the 2nd party! My stuff is always usable.

 

[Aus_Snow]

I couldn't care less whether WotC does a fey book, or a giants book either. I don't much like any of their fey, and I don't like any of their giants, as they are represented in their books so far. On the flipside, some d20/OGL books from otehr publishers have excelled at dealing with the former. Not sure about the latter.

Anyway, whatever. Bo9S = meh. "Fey" = meh. "Giants" = meh. Whole lotta meh goin' on.

 

[Baby Samurai]

I want a Fey book more than any other potential product I can think of, but it is for selfish reasons, as I have been running a Planescape campaign for about a year with a heavy Fey theme (Seelie/Unseelie Court etc).

I bet when the Fey part of my campaign is over, that's when they'll release it…

 

[Geoff Watson]

I think Paizo falls under 2nd party, not 3rd party

Huh? "2nd party" refers to the customers.

Geoff.

 

[Felon]

But of all the "big ideas" they had ready to go, why did he particularly mention those two?

Who knows? Maybe it was something he had for lunch. It's amazing the extreme inferrences people make sometimes. My personal inferrence is that he just threw out the first thing that popped into mind.

If you listen carefully, he specifically says some ideas are so awesome that they rip a project off of a time slot in order to put in the "super awesome" project: in this case, Tome of Battle was that "super awesome" project and it completely replaced a book slated to be due that month instead.

When asked which book it was, he said either a Fey or Giant book...something along those lines. Point was, they probably have such books in the works but now we're stuck waiting longer for it.

I provided the actual quote of what he said.

They have lots of books under consideration, but in the entire process he describes, we don't where in the process these alleged books are. Indeed, the one thing we can speculate is that it's unlikely that ToB displaced two monster books from being released in the same month.