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stevelabny
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arthur...no no no never just root for a team because its local. ugh.
either pick a team or dont.
gnome...as for brooklyn being nl territory? lessee... im from brooklyn, and im a yanks fan. i was born way after the dodgers and giants left town. my earliest memories of baseball are 1981 (fourth grade for me) or maybe even 1980. but most of my memories are from the yankees "dark years" between 82-94. also known as the donnie groundout or alvaro espinoiza-bobby meachum-mike pagliarulo-pat kelly years.
the few days i spent in high school were surrounded by mets fans, but that was 1986...an the high school was in manhattan anyway. and filled with snobby rich kids who were so obviously front-runners it made me sick.
see to me, growing up a yanks fan in the one dark period...yankees fans were REAL fans and mets fans were bandwagon jumpers. and 1995 was sad and 1996 was great! and suddenly all those mets fans became yankee fans..
but i always ask the most embarassing moment fromt he 80s to see if they are REAL fans. any takers?
cub fans got their dreams torn to shreds by the marlins...now admit it, wouldnt you rather have had your dreams dashed by the yankees in world series? a little less embarassing, no? same thing goes for you sox fans. better to lose tomorrow than to the marlins in the series.
as for tomorrows game 7...i just hope that when the yanks take the lead off pedro, and he throws at the next batter, that he doesnt hurt anyone.
either pick a team or dont.
gnome...as for brooklyn being nl territory? lessee... im from brooklyn, and im a yanks fan. i was born way after the dodgers and giants left town. my earliest memories of baseball are 1981 (fourth grade for me) or maybe even 1980. but most of my memories are from the yankees "dark years" between 82-94. also known as the donnie groundout or alvaro espinoiza-bobby meachum-mike pagliarulo-pat kelly years.
the few days i spent in high school were surrounded by mets fans, but that was 1986...an the high school was in manhattan anyway. and filled with snobby rich kids who were so obviously front-runners it made me sick.
see to me, growing up a yanks fan in the one dark period...yankees fans were REAL fans and mets fans were bandwagon jumpers. and 1995 was sad and 1996 was great! and suddenly all those mets fans became yankee fans..
but i always ask the most embarassing moment fromt he 80s to see if they are REAL fans. any takers?
cub fans got their dreams torn to shreds by the marlins...now admit it, wouldnt you rather have had your dreams dashed by the yankees in world series? a little less embarassing, no? same thing goes for you sox fans. better to lose tomorrow than to the marlins in the series.
as for tomorrows game 7...i just hope that when the yanks take the lead off pedro, and he throws at the next batter, that he doesnt hurt anyone.
stevelabny
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BOZ said:
this is the exact kinda thinking i dont understand.after watching the yankees suck for a decade, i was so into their playoff appearnce in 95. they didnt win. this didnt sour me on them. it made me want to win so much more. when they finally won in 96 i was ecstatic. i dealt with 97/98 was fun. 99 was kinda ho-hum. 2000 was only good cuz it was against the mets and a MUST WIN. the loss in 2001 was heartbreaking only because of the back-to-back 2-out 9th inning 2 run hrs. the "script" for that series should have had the yanks win. they didnt win last year, and it didnt phase me much. i dont think this year will affect me much either way.
BUT im also a Redskins fan in football... I've seen them win two Super Bowls since I've become a fan, but they havent been very good for quite a while now. yet when Sunday comes I'm sitting on the edge of my couch being loud and rowdy. their new young QB Patrick Ramsey Ramsey has all the signs of greatness and I cant wait to see them win again.
I'm MORE into my teams when theyre coming off years of being bad and are on the path to being good. the first win after quite a while without is SWEET. how any cubs fan can not already be wishing it was april with this good young team, i have no idea.
John Crichton
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I can't remember if it was the early 90's or late 80's but the low point for me was when Andy Hawkins pitched a no-hitter and the Yanks lost. I bleed Yankee pinstripes...stevelabny said:
I'm a Yanks fan mostly because my father is. I started really watching Yankee baseball in 84 (I was 7), which was Mattingly's rookie year oddly enough. Until 95 (well, really 96) I thought my team sucked and we were "cursed." All a matter of perspective I guess.
Michael Morris
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[OT]They're the Cubs!!!
They're the Cubs
Parody of "Johnny Reb" by Johnny Horton
They lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
Saw them a play'n once again in Wrigley
They held they're heads a-high, tryin' to win the victory
But it seems that the goat has finally struck again
Once again they lost, now spend another year in shame
And they lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
I watched their teeth a chatter from the cold outside
Watched their own fan make a save for the other side
I watched in horror as the team took another fall
They had tears in their eyes, 'cause they couldn't help at all
And they lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
I saw Dusty Baker raise a clipboard in his hand
Head the fan's roar as they made their last stand
They marched into the game in the blue and the red
When the score was a tallied once again the Cubs were dead
Cause they lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
And now the nation heard the news about their fall
And folks are a crying at the tragedy of it all
95 years and counting have passed since victory
Graced the loveable losers who live reside in old Wrigley
But they lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
They lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
They lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
They're the Cubs
Parody of "Johnny Reb" by Johnny Horton
They lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
Saw them a play'n once again in Wrigley
They held they're heads a-high, tryin' to win the victory
But it seems that the goat has finally struck again
Once again they lost, now spend another year in shame
And they lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
I watched their teeth a chatter from the cold outside
Watched their own fan make a save for the other side
I watched in horror as the team took another fall
They had tears in their eyes, 'cause they couldn't help at all
And they lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
I saw Dusty Baker raise a clipboard in his hand
Head the fan's roar as they made their last stand
They marched into the game in the blue and the red
When the score was a tallied once again the Cubs were dead
Cause they lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
And now the nation heard the news about their fall
And folks are a crying at the tragedy of it all
95 years and counting have passed since victory
Graced the loveable losers who live reside in old Wrigley
But they lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
They lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
They lost all again, They're the Cubs, They're the Cubs
They lost all again, They're the Cubs,
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Michael Morris
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I don't appreciate the merge. I understand the need to keep OT posts to a minimum, but burying this on the 8th page of this thread has doomed it to obscurity. The song isn't going to kill anyone, and I would think some folks might want to look it up on it's own.
Kid Charlemagne
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I don't hold out much hope for the newspapers figuring out the real reason the Cubs didn't win - namely, Dusty Baker.
He rode his starters far too hard over the past three months. First Zambrano, then Wood, then Prior fell from top notch starters to worn-out kids. To be fair, they wouldn't have made the playoffs if he hadn't - the Cubs bullpen only had two good pitchers (Farnsworth and Borowski), a couple decent ones (Remlinger and, uh, OK, one decent one), and several horrible ones (Alfonseca, Veres).
Dusty rode them into October, and they dropped like flies a series and a half too soon. Cubs fans just have to hope that they're only tuckered out, not injured. My personal projection is that the big three will pitch fewer innings next year, with a worse ERA. This is a team that could be great for years, but this offseason, and the bounce-back of their three young guns will determine if 2003 was a one-shot deal, or the beginning of an Atlanta Braves kind of run.
He rode his starters far too hard over the past three months. First Zambrano, then Wood, then Prior fell from top notch starters to worn-out kids. To be fair, they wouldn't have made the playoffs if he hadn't - the Cubs bullpen only had two good pitchers (Farnsworth and Borowski), a couple decent ones (Remlinger and, uh, OK, one decent one), and several horrible ones (Alfonseca, Veres).
Dusty rode them into October, and they dropped like flies a series and a half too soon. Cubs fans just have to hope that they're only tuckered out, not injured. My personal projection is that the big three will pitch fewer innings next year, with a worse ERA. This is a team that could be great for years, but this offseason, and the bounce-back of their three young guns will determine if 2003 was a one-shot deal, or the beginning of an Atlanta Braves kind of run.
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John Crichton
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You can't really fault Dusty. He had to pitch those guys. I think the only big mistake he made was leaving in Prior too long in Game 6. He was getting tired in that 8th inning plus he was really frustrated by that play in the stands.
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