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Green Knight said:
Not to completely hijack the thread, but while I enjoyed the story overall, I always had one major problem with Batman: Year Two, one that really lowered my enjoyment of the whole thing.
I hate that they turned Joe Chill into a bad ass. In B:Y2, he's a mob hitman, a good shot, and he's got ice-water in his veins. Hell, even when Batman/Bruce has got a gun to his head, there's no trace of fear; it's just "Do it if you've got the guts."
That's not Joe Chill. Joe Chill was a coward, a punk street criminal, a nothing who freaked and ran after shooting two helpless pedestrians. He's a coward. That's the whole point of Joe Chill, the fact that this mewling, useless little stain of a man was the one who brought about the Batman. It's the same reason I hate the fact that Tim Burton made the Joker-to-be the one who killed the Waynes in this first Batman movie. By giving Joe Chill any strength at all, it seriously detracts from the character.
I'm sure some people won't see why I think this is a big deal, but to me, it turned an otherwise cool story into a disappointment. I've always loved the fate of Joe Chill as originally written in the comics decades ago--in which he finds out that Bruce Wayne is Batman, runs to a bunch of his criminal cohorts to tell them, and when they learn that he created Batman, they shoot him dead in retalliation for all the trouble Bats has caused. That sort of fate is appropriate for Chill, not facing down Batman and getting shot from behind.
They gave Joe Chill a spine, made him more than a punk coward with a gun and sweaty palms, and that's damn near an unforgivable sin, IMO.
That's not Joe Chill. Joe Chill was a coward, a punk street criminal, a nothing who freaked and ran after shooting two helpless pedestrians. He's a coward. That's the whole point of Joe Chill, the fact that this mewling, useless little stain of a man was the one who brought about the Batman. It's the same reason I hate the fact that Tim Burton made the Joker-to-be the one who killed the Waynes in this first Batman movie. By giving Joe Chill any strength at all, it seriously detracts from the character.
I'm sure some people won't see why I think this is a big deal, but to me, it turned an otherwise cool story into a disappointment. I've always loved the fate of Joe Chill as originally written in the comics decades ago--in which he finds out that Bruce Wayne is Batman, runs to a bunch of his criminal cohorts to tell them, and when they learn that he created Batman, they shoot him dead in retalliation for all the trouble Bats has caused. That sort of fate is appropriate for Chill, not facing down Batman and getting shot from behind.
They gave Joe Chill a spine, made him more than a punk coward with a gun and sweaty palms, and that's damn near an unforgivable sin, IMO.
Sorry for the length.
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