Batman & Robin #1

[Kobold Avenger]

I guess it's best to start with 'Holy revamp Batman!'

Now that Bruce Wayne is dead by ambiguous means (struck by Darkseid's Omega Sanction), Dick Grayson has given up being Nightwing and is now Batman. And Bruce Wayne's and Talia's evil son Damien is now Robin, now that it's become clear that Dick has to take care of that kid. As for Tim Drake, he sort of disappeared.

So other than the plot about a villain who gives forced sex changes and surgery to his victims to turn them into redhead dolls. For the most part we got a reverse Batman and Robin, where Batman is the more light-hearted character and Robin is the darker and brooding character. It's actually an enjoyable issue.

 

[Relique du Madde]

I guess it's best to start with 'Holy revamp Batman!'

Now that Bruce Wayne is dead by ambiguous means (struck by Darkseid's Omega Sanction), Dick Grayson has given up being Nightwing and is now Batman. And Bruce Wayne's and Talia's evil son Damien is now Robin, now that it's become clear that Dick has to take care of that kid. As for Tim Drake, he sort of disappeared.

So other than the plot about a villain who gives forced sex changes and surgery to his victims to turn them into redhead dolls. For the most part we got a reverse Batman and Robin, where Batman is the more light-hearted character and Robin is the darker and brooding character. It's actually an enjoyable issue.

I heard that Tim Drake (the new Red Robin) was going to be looking for Bruce (because we know DC would never truly kill off Bruce Wayne since the WB is going to produce another Batman movie).

 

[Kobold Avenger]

I heard that Tim Drake (the new Red Robin) was going to be looking for Bruce (because we know DC would never truly kill off Bruce Wayne since the WB is going to produce another Batman movie).

I know Bruce will be back eventually, but the movies have not dictated what happens in the comic, because "Batman RIP" happened around the time that Dark Knight was out.

 

[Silver Moon]

...the movies have not dictated what happens in the comic, because "Batman RIP" happened around the time that Dark Knight was out.

A friend of mine manages a comic book store and says that in the last thirty years there has been almost no correlation between movies and comic book sales. The only real exceptions were Tim Burton's Batman and Sam Rami's Spiderman which each boosted sales for the next 2-3 months after the movies were released, although the sequels did nothing.

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

i was actually surprised, i did not think i was going to like this, but it turned out the first issue was very good. I was dissapointed with how predictable battle for the cowl was, so in the back of my mind i was ready for this to suck too. I still wish Jason had ended up as Red Robin, oh well.

 

[Klaus]

I wish Jason would be Superboy-punched back into the grave.

 

[WayneLigon]

I thought it was pretty well done; I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. Dick as Batman is a good choice, though he'll be relieved to give up the cowl when Bruce returns from whatever planet he's been exiled to. How he'll deal with the Nightwing name being used by the kid in Metropolis is another issue Or... he might stay Batman for awhile. I know some people thought Captain America would come back much sooner than has proved to be the case.

Robin is my only sticking point. One of the reasons Jason was killed off was not so much the phone poll but that post-Crisis he was a wholly unlikable character. Damian is just about as bad, or worse, than Jason was and if something doesn't happen to curb his attitude fairly soon then he's probably headed for the same fate. I think they did need a new Robin; Tim Drake basically 'graduated' some time ago. But I don't think Damian in his current state is that person.

 

[coyote6]

For those that don't know, the last issue of Final Crisis already told us where Batman is:

[sblock]Or rather, when; when last seen, Bruce Wayne was drawing pictures on caveman's wall. You can see a picture here.[/sblock]

 

[Ahzad]

A friend of mine manages a comic book store and says that in the last thirty years there has been almost no correlation between movies and comic book sales. The only real exceptions were Tim Burton's Batman and Sam Rami's Spiderman which each boosted sales for the next 2-3 months after the movies were released, although the sequels did nothing.

As the manager of our local comic/game store I've seen the exact opposite. I've seen more sales before/during/after the release of the comic related movie. I'll grant you the sales might not have been sustained but there definitely has been an increase in interest. DC keeps dropped the ball in having an accessible book to go with their movie. When Dark Knight came out there wasn't an entry-level book for new readers, and there should've been. Batman was in the midst of a convoluted terrible mess with RIP and Final Crisis. The only thing I could recommend was older trade collections, nothing current in a floppy format. Marvel at least when Iron Man came out launched a new Iron Man comic at the same time so that folks could walk out of the movie and into my shop and pick up an Iron Man comic and collect in monthly should they wish.