Battlestar Galactica:Season Finale {SPOILERS UNLIMITED} 1.4.05

[cignus_pfaccari]

Well given what Apollo pulled in the season finale that little problem may be resolved - he may be a civilian next season.

I really don't think so.

If the Colonies were still a going concern, pulling the stuff that they did would've gotten them canned at the very least. *However*, there are mitigating circumstances.

First, they're desperately short of pilots. They're veterans and, esp. in Starbuck's case, are Aces; that is, they're the ones who actually do the killing of Cylons. Tossing out two of their best pilots...*10 percent* of your entire fighter pilot contingent!, is insane.

Second, what each did is, really, going to turn out to be for the good of the Fleet. Apollo was acting legally, the Commander was not. Starbuck will wind up bringing back another pilot (Helo) and a replacement for the soon-to-be-airlocked Galactica Boomer, and the artifact that the President sent her after. That is, if she can fit three people into the Raider.

Third, this'll provide plenty of conflict for the first couple of episodes!

Brad

 

[Krieg]

As the Chief is a reasonably experienced noncom, and the pilot dude apparently is not, if they have to stay on Kobol for more than the season opener, I kind of expect the Chief to start taking control in a diplomatic fashion. It looks like he already started.

I have a feeling that it is not going to be a very diplomatic experience. I'll bet that it will be a very contentious relationship with the LT consistently making choices that endanger the lives of the castaways with the chief continually saving them by the skin of his teeth...until they reach a moment where the party has to decide who to listen to, the competent NCO or the incompetent commisioned officer...

 

[coyote6]

until they reach a moment where the party has to decide who to listen to, the competent NCO or the incompetent commisioned officer...

Or the genius secretly-a-cylon-prophet/puppet vice-president. I wouldn't be surprised if Baltar comes down on the Chief's side (since he'll be the one most capable of getting them all back to Galactica, where Baltar's new charge will end up).

Say, wasn't there an annoying little super-smart kid is season 2 of the original Galactica? I wonder if young Mr./Ms. Boomer-Helo will grow up to be really smart.

Anybody listen to Ronald Moore's MP3 commentary about the season finale? Some interesting things in there, especially concerning what-might-have-been.

(PS: I like Starbuck, though I don't like the Starbuck/Apollo romance angle.)

 

[wilrich]

I have a question -- slightly off-topic, but this is probably the quickest and easiest place to get it answered. I really like the series, by the way, but have only seen the 3-4 most recent episodes and did not see the mini-series or any earlier episodes, and I hope someone who has been there from the beginning can answer something for me . . .

Have they explained exactly how/why Baltar keeps seeing six and no one else does? When I first started watching, I just assumed that he was insane and that she was just a manifestation of his insanity (a la Beutiful Mind) and that her suggestions, "insights," etc. were just the way some of his own thoughts, delusions, ramblings, etc. manifested given his insanity. But, at times it seems like she actually knows (as oppossed to just saying that she knows) things that he should not/would not know, and this had led me to wonder if she is the result of communications, manipulations, etc. of some form from the Cylons. I'm sure if I sat down and really analyzed all that she has said and compared it to events, etc., it might be possible to figure it out, but I thought someone might be able to make it easy for me!

So, has this been explained earlier in the series, or has it been left deliberately ambiguous? Thanks for any answers! Great show!

 

[Truth Seeker]

I have a question -- slightly off-topic, but this is probably the quickest and easiest place to get it answered. I really like the series, by the way, but have only seen the 3-4 most recent episodes and did not see the mini-series or any earlier episodes, and I hope someone who has been there from the beginning can answer something for me . . .

Have they explained exactly how/why Baltar keeps seeing six and no one else does? When I first started watching, I just assumed that he was insane and that she was just a manifestation of his insanity (a la Beutiful Mind) and that her suggestions, "insights," etc. were just the way some of his own thoughts, delusions, ramblings, etc. manifested given his insanity. But, at times it seems like she actually knows (as oppossed to just saying that she knows) things that he should not/would not know, and this had led me to wonder if she is the result of communications, manipulations, etc. of some form from the Cylons. I'm sure if I sat down and really analyzed all that she has said and compared it to events, etc., it might be possible to figure it out, but I thought someone might be able to make it easy for me!

So, has this been explained earlier in the series, or has it been left deliberately ambiguous? Thanks for any answers! Great show!

I believe there was a vague answer from Model #6 herself, "I'm inside your head". What is inside his head...was never fully revealed as far as I know. Or maybe I missed it. But there is a form of communications ongoing...you are right about that...so much so...that she can at will, make him hurt himself.

 

[Ed]

Either in the transcript of the mini-series or on screen it's mentioned by Six to Baltar that she implanted a 'chip' in his body at some point during their time together on Caprica, pre-Holocaust.

Someone correct me if I'm mistaken please!

 

[Fast Learner]

It actually went down like this in the miniseries (obviously not quoting):

Baltar: You're just a figment of my imagination. I'm mad!

Six: How do you know the real me didn't plant a chip in your brain while you slept?

They left it, imo, intentionally vague about whether she's his manifestation of guilt about what he did with a real Six (effectively allowing her to shut down the colonial defense system by thinking with his little head) or whether she's implanted in him somewhere. And the writers have done an excellent job, again imo, of keeping you guessing, first pushing you one way and then the other. The last episode there, though, certainly pushes quite hard into the latter camp.

And I like Starbuck, too. And the President. And, really, pretty much everyone.

They introduced Boxy, the annoying little kid from the original show, in the mini-series, though he wasn't Apollo's son (like he was in the original). At least I'm pretty sure that was supposed to be Boxy.

 

[Krieg]

Say, wasn't there an annoying little super-smart kid is season 2 of the original Galactica?

You mean Cousin Oliver?

BTW...

(spoiler)

Spoiler

He was Starbuck's kid!

 

[Krieg]

I know it will never happen but I would love to see a re-imaging of the old "Ship of Light/Count Iblis" storyline from the original series...

 

[Darrin Drader]

I know it will never happen but I would love to see a re-imaging of the old "Ship of Light/Count Iblis" storyline from the original series...

Actually Ron Moore said specifically that he's interested in the Count Iblis character. In the original show, he was the original cylon. I have a feeling he might end up being the manifestation of the God they keep talking about.