5E Best 5e high level adventure?

Retreater

Adventurer
My group is looking at continuing after Tomb of Annihilation (12-13th level). Are there any high level adventures you'd recommend for a follow up? (I am considering just breaking up Dungeon of the Mad Mage.)
 

CapnZapp

Adventurer
I'm afraid I don't think there are any good ones.

If you play with options on, your group can handle level 17 adventures at 12th level.
 

bgbarcus

Explorer
You can scavenge the end (high level) parts from any of the published modules and modify them for your party. But the primary thing to remember at those levels is that you should expect to always customize to your party. The mix of powers and magic makes it impossible to write a universally appropriate module for those levels. All the authors can do is give you a good foundation.
 

Luz

Explorer
There's some in Quests of Doom, no idea if they are any good.
There are some pretty good ones in QoD. "Ra's Evil Grin" and "Sewers of the Underguild" are excellent and gauged for 11th and 15th level respectively. "Emeralds of Highfang" is recommended for "high level" - I'd estimate 16th-18th level. Bear in mind that modules from Frog God Games are usually more dangerous than those published by WotC, so bumping any of these up another level or two wouldn't be excessive.
 

Zardnaar

Hero
There are some pretty good ones in QoD. "Ra's Evil Grin" and "Sewers of the Underguild" are excellent and gauged for 11th and 15th level respectively. "Emeralds of Highfang" is recommended for "high level" - I'd estimate 16th-18th level. Bear in mind that modules from Frog God Games are usually more dangerous than those published by WotC, so bumping any of these up another level or two wouldn't be excessive.
Yes I have read them. They look alright.
 

CapnZapp

Adventurer
You can scavenge the end (high level) parts from any of the published modules and modify them for your party. But the primary thing to remember at those levels is that you should expect to always customize to your party. The mix of powers and magic makes it impossible to write a universally appropriate module for those levels. All the authors can do is give you a good foundation.
It's just that: the foundation isn't good. High level 5E material is written like low level 5E material: for neophytes.

Let's just say if your expectation for a "good foundation" is an adventure that might just challenge new players who grab high-level characters and go, then you're in luck.

If, on the other hand, you expect high-level play to be geared towards more experienced players (the way all players become if they've played their way through all the levels), and indeed games with options turned on, boy are you going to be disappointed.

Put another way, I'm dead tired of using "every group is different" to justify WotC's incredibly weak efforts at high level.

Yes, the DM can't expect a high-level scenario to be perfectly tuned to his or her group. No, that does not excuse the woeful state high-level 5E is in.

I'm not exaggerating when I say a well-tuned team of options-on characters can easily handle a high-level adventure when they're five levels short of the intended level range. What this means is that once you've levelled past 15th or so, the official support pretty much isn't there, like, at all. You're on your own - completely.

My point is that WotC's choice to cater to newbies and carebears at low level is understandable. Not upping their game at high level, where players naturally will have prior experience, is, on the other hand, completely inexcusable.

Tldr if your players are veterans, expect to have to make your own encounters from level 12 or 14 or so.
 

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