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Some of the lore that Leading Edge Games printed in their game has made it's way into the new edition.Both, and yes.
Some of the lore that Leading Edge Games printed in their game has made it's way into the new edition.Both, and yes.
The thing with Barker is that he's honest and direct about sex and sexuality, and he's a very openly gay man so some things people think he's fetishizing, well, he clearly is not. He's just writing horror and/or fantasy that involves sexual elements, and some people always read sexual elements as fetishization (especially in horror), no matter what.Clive Barker is immediately the author I think of whenever I hear the meme about "the author's barely disguised fetish"
Yeah I would vote for Mothership right now, albeit not because of the rules, which frankly are... serviceable at best. At least they have some decent concepts that serve the goals and don't get in the way (unlike, say, CoC's rules, which sometimes do, and others of which are rendered vestigial).Am I the first person to mention Ennie winning Mothership in this thread?
So Mothership. Space horror mini-toolkit with several adventures.
Also agree that CoC is a true triumph of game design. D20 CoC is a great horror/mythos resource.
I apologize that you might have read my post and interpreted it as derogatory, which is fair to assume for most people but also... it's me, so let me be a bit more clear:The thing with Barker is that he's honest and direct about sex and sexuality, and he's a very openly gay man so some things people think he's fetishizing, well, he clearly is not. He's just writing horror and/or fantasy that involves sexual elements, and some people always read sexual elements as fetishization (especially in horror), no matter what.
So I think you're honestly mistaken there. Imho he's not "disguising" fetishizes or the even worse thing authors do where they express a fetish that they don't even know they have, or won't admit they have (c.f. usually some kind of BDSM deal for whatever reason). Frankly there isn't a single author who has included sex scenes in any book beyond the most sterile and tepid cis-hetero stuff that hasn't been accused of being a perv or having a fetish though (especially today, when we have certain subset of self-identifying "adult minors" - i.e. 22 year old+ people who think they are still "smol beans UwU" and who are prudes for clout with teenagers, frankly).
If you haven't read his books, or have only read part of a couple of them I could easily see going "Ugh" and reacting that way, but it's not at all a fair or accurate description of his body of work, where it would be much more fair of say, Wizard's First Rule by Terry Goodkind.
Ok fair lol yeahI apologize that you might have read my post and interpreted it as derogatory, which is fair to assume for most people but also... it's me, so let me be a bit more clear:
Clive Barker is immediately the author I think of whenever I hear the meme about "the author's barely disguised fetish" (extremely positive)
I will defend d20 CoC to my dying day. It's never been my preferred version of the game, but it was a well thought out game that did a great job adapting CoC to the d20 system. It did an especially good job of providing players and GMs new to CoC with information about what it was all about.Also agree that CoC is a true triumph of game design. D20 CoC is a great horror/mythos resource.
I will defend d20 CoC to my dying day. It's never been my preferred version of the game, but it was a well thought out game that did a great job adapting CoC to the d20 system. It did an especially good job of providing players and GMs new to CoC with information about what it was all about.
No. Overgeeked did on page 1.Am I the first person to mention Ennie winning Mothership in this thread?
It's lasted about 40 years... with minor changes.Also agree that CoC is a true triumph of game design. D20 CoC is a great horror/mythos resource.
Yeah, I had fun playing in a one shot. After 8 sessions it felt very tedious. Random death, insanity being caused mostly by teammates screaming nearby, by firing automatic guns (seriously) and rolling badly when trying to read a map, and a set of skills that never quite seem to match the actions being taken.I played through a short Alien campaign. I didn’t love it; character death was so frequent that it was hard to care much and the options felt very constrained. I found that it played almost like a board game with RPG elements.