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Clive Barker is immediately the author I think of whenever I hear the meme about "the author's barely disguised fetish"
The thing with Barker is that he's honest and direct about sex and sexuality, and he's a very openly gay man so some things people think he's fetishizing, well, he clearly is not. He's just writing horror and/or fantasy that involves sexual elements, and some people always read sexual elements as fetishization (especially in horror), no matter what.

So I think you're honestly mistaken there. Imho he's not "disguising" fetishizes or the even worse thing authors do where they express a fetish that they don't even know they have, or won't admit they have (c.f. usually some kind of BDSM deal for whatever reason). Frankly there isn't a single author who has included sex scenes in any book beyond the most sterile and tepid cis-hetero stuff that hasn't been accused of being a perv or having a fetish though (especially today, when we have certain subset of self-identifying "adult minors" - i.e. 22 year old+ people who think they are still "smol beans UwU" and who are prudes for clout with teenagers, frankly).

If you haven't read his books, or have only read part of a couple of them I could easily see going "Ugh" and reacting that way, but it's not at all a fair or accurate description of his body of work, where it would be much more fair of say, Wizard's First Rule by Terry Goodkind.
 


Am I the first person to mention Ennie winning Mothership in this thread?

So Mothership. Space horror mini-toolkit with several adventures.

Also agree that CoC is a true triumph of game design. D20 CoC is a great horror/mythos resource.
Yeah I would vote for Mothership right now, albeit not because of the rules, which frankly are... serviceable at best. At least they have some decent concepts that serve the goals and don't get in the way (unlike, say, CoC's rules, which sometimes do, and others of which are rendered vestigial).

But because of the incredible community of people building extremely stylish and fun and weird adventures for it.
 

The thing with Barker is that he's honest and direct about sex and sexuality, and he's a very openly gay man so some things people think he's fetishizing, well, he clearly is not. He's just writing horror and/or fantasy that involves sexual elements, and some people always read sexual elements as fetishization (especially in horror), no matter what.

So I think you're honestly mistaken there. Imho he's not "disguising" fetishizes or the even worse thing authors do where they express a fetish that they don't even know they have, or won't admit they have (c.f. usually some kind of BDSM deal for whatever reason). Frankly there isn't a single author who has included sex scenes in any book beyond the most sterile and tepid cis-hetero stuff that hasn't been accused of being a perv or having a fetish though (especially today, when we have certain subset of self-identifying "adult minors" - i.e. 22 year old+ people who think they are still "smol beans UwU" and who are prudes for clout with teenagers, frankly).

If you haven't read his books, or have only read part of a couple of them I could easily see going "Ugh" and reacting that way, but it's not at all a fair or accurate description of his body of work, where it would be much more fair of say, Wizard's First Rule by Terry Goodkind.
I apologize that you might have read my post and interpreted it as derogatory, which is fair to assume for most people but also... it's me, so let me be a bit more clear:

Clive Barker is immediately the author I think of whenever I hear the meme about "the author's barely disguised fetish" (extremely positive)
 

I apologize that you might have read my post and interpreted it as derogatory, which is fair to assume for most people but also... it's me, so let me be a bit more clear:

Clive Barker is immediately the author I think of whenever I hear the meme about "the author's barely disguised fetish" (extremely positive)
Ok fair lol yeah

I have some enjoyed a couple of romantasy novels where that was going on too (c.f. T. Kingfisher, who I can honestly say "I was reading it for the worldbuilding!" about, I just didn't object to the make-out sessions etc.)
 

Also agree that CoC is a true triumph of game design. D20 CoC is a great horror/mythos resource.
I will defend d20 CoC to my dying day. It's never been my preferred version of the game, but it was a well thought out game that did a great job adapting CoC to the d20 system. It did an especially good job of providing players and GMs new to CoC with information about what it was all about.
 

I will defend d20 CoC to my dying day. It's never been my preferred version of the game, but it was a well thought out game that did a great job adapting CoC to the d20 system. It did an especially good job of providing players and GMs new to CoC with information about what it was all about.

A class/level system has its benefits; the game distanced itself from them to its detriment.
 

Am I the first person to mention Ennie winning Mothership in this thread?
No. Overgeeked did on page 1.

Also agree that CoC is a true triumph of game design. D20 CoC is a great horror/mythos resource.
It's lasted about 40 years... with minor changes.
That said, it makes the biggest and most common mythos mistake... statting up things man was not meant to kill nor know. If you stat it, players WILL find a way to kill it.

I'll note that horror themes are easily added to most games...
... even when they don't belong.
One can do a good horror story in MLP:TOE...
 
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I played through a short Alien campaign. I didn’t love it; character death was so frequent that it was hard to care much and the options felt very constrained. I found that it played almost like a board game with RPG elements.
Yeah, I had fun playing in a one shot. After 8 sessions it felt very tedious. Random death, insanity being caused mostly by teammates screaming nearby, by firing automatic guns (seriously) and rolling badly when trying to read a map, and a set of skills that never quite seem to match the actions being taken.

Love the universe, dislike the system.
 

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