Binders vs Mummy Rot

[Hooly]

All,

I have a little isue on my hands that has my head in a bit of a spin.

For a start, I allowed a Binder into my game (which may have been a mistake). We are playing the Savage Tide Campaign, and the PCs came across a trap which when activated game 2 of them Mummy Rot. One of these was the binder.

Now the player is asking about two vestiges which he claims will asist him:

1) Naberius, The Grinning Hound
2) Buer, Grandmother Huntress

The first is used to recover 1 lost ability score per round. The vestige is a 1st level and this seems a little too powerful. Sure he still has Mummy Rot but it gives him a good head start.

The second is to be immune to disease. I am going to assume that as a Supernatural disease, and the way the vestige is explained, that this ability would not in fact work as it appears to be focused of natural forming diseases.

Can someone give me advice on what to do with my situation.

Cheers.

 

[frankthedm]

The letting the binder in was the mistake sadly. While they are not that powerful damage output wise, they get some immunities and other work around that can prove downright irksome as you have now seen.

I do believe the player is right. So it comes down to two choices, either put up with the thorn of the binder, or request the player build a new PC {same XP total of course].

EdIT Also, just want to mention, disease immunity doe not make one immune to parasites. The worms of kyuss will still affect the character. Remove disease works against them because that spell also kills parasites.

Remove disease cures all diseases that the subject is suffering from. The spell also kills parasites, including green slime and others. Certain special diseases may not be countered by this spell or may be countered only by a caster of a certain level or higher.

 

[Drowbane]

1) pfft, you've got bigger things to worry about that one PC having some useful Immunites. Just shrug and move on with the game.

2) Mummy Rot is fairly special in what can and cannot deal with it. Does the Vestige call out "supernatural diseases"? If not, it is perfectly reasonable to assume that those very few and highly specialized "diseases" win out here. If you go this route, I'd follow it up with requiring CL checks for the Naberius vestige to cure the damage (why should a pseudo-god-thing be more powerful than a Cleric spell?).

Personally, I tend to lean abit more to #1. D&D (3e) isn't about saying "no"... or so they say.

I think that with the Binder you're experiencing some "culture shock". Its not super-unbalancing, if fact in many ways it is a really weak class. I had similiar issues with the Warlock when it came out... then I realized it was all (mostly) flash.

 

[Goobermunch]

I'd argue that immunity to disease is no help against mummy rot. "Mummy rot is a powerful curse, not a natural disease." It is a curse. It just acts like a disease.

That's how we ruled it when our warforged psywar played patty cake with the mummy.

--G

 

[Neil Bishop]

I would be happy for the moment that the binder's player is happy that his character is useful. Later, the profound uselessness of the binder will kick in and your player will probably want to change anyway.

 

[Stalker0]

Would you be upset if a paladin shrugged off mummy rot?

These are his abilities, let him enjoy them.

Remember, the thing about binding is that each binding IS 24 hours!! And this isn't a wizard's day, the binding lasts exactly that long, and unless your player has the expel vestige feat, he can't just willy nilly change vestiges.

 

[Nail]

These are his abilities, let him enjoy them.

QFT

This is really No Big Deal(tm). IMO, the DM is over-reacting, as Binders are some of the least powerful new classes in the game. Let him enjoy his (likely to be only one) moment in the sunshine.

BTW, would you have been upset if the Binder had made his save against the disease? Same result, right?

Let it go....let it go......

 

[eamon]

What book is the binder in?

 

[shilsen]

What book is the binder in?

It came out in the Tome of Magic, along with the Shadowcaster and Truenamer.

And in response to the OP, I second what most of the posters above have said. Leave the poor binder alone. He needs all the help he can get.

 

[Derren]

Let the binder use his vestiges. After all he uses one of his vestiges slots (or even only vestige slot, don't know how that works) for countering this disease (and as others have said 24 hours isn't that short, especially on an adventure).

Would disease immunity affect mummy rot? imo yes. Ask yourself would a paladin be immune to it? If yes then the vestige will help.