Birds of Prey? Do tell...
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Klaus
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Hey, Mark!
What I know about the comic:
Barbara Gordon used Black Canary (daughter of the WWII Black Canary) as her field agent for a looooong time before they actually met. Black Canary/Dinah Lance used to have sonic scream, but lost it after being tortured by some enemies of her boyfriend (Green Arrow/Oliver Queen). She recently regained that power. According to comics continuity, she's about 35 years old, and was one of the original members of the Justice League.
Huntress (Helena Bertinelli, daughter of a murdered mafia don) was never really one of the birds (specially since she was deeply jealous of Barbara being the girlfriend of "former Robin/now Nightwing" Dick Grayson (who had a one-night stand with Huntress. Batman tried to teach her, but she's too violent for his tastes.
In the show, Black Canary is precognitive (huh?), is about 17 (younger than Barbara Gordon). Huntress is Helena Wayne, daughter of Bruce Wayne (Batman) and Selina Kyle (Catwoman). In this regard, the show harkens back to pre-1986 comics continuity, where Huntress was from another dimension, and was the daughter of Bats and Catty. What's new is that she's metahuman (little super-strength/agility/resilience). Guess they're trying to pull a Dark Angel thing on her...
Anything else?
What I know about the comic:
Barbara Gordon used Black Canary (daughter of the WWII Black Canary) as her field agent for a looooong time before they actually met. Black Canary/Dinah Lance used to have sonic scream, but lost it after being tortured by some enemies of her boyfriend (Green Arrow/Oliver Queen). She recently regained that power. According to comics continuity, she's about 35 years old, and was one of the original members of the Justice League.
Huntress (Helena Bertinelli, daughter of a murdered mafia don) was never really one of the birds (specially since she was deeply jealous of Barbara being the girlfriend of "former Robin/now Nightwing" Dick Grayson (who had a one-night stand with Huntress. Batman tried to teach her, but she's too violent for his tastes.
In the show, Black Canary is precognitive (huh?), is about 17 (younger than Barbara Gordon). Huntress is Helena Wayne, daughter of Bruce Wayne (Batman) and Selina Kyle (Catwoman). In this regard, the show harkens back to pre-1986 comics continuity, where Huntress was from another dimension, and was the daughter of Bats and Catty. What's new is that she's metahuman (little super-strength/agility/resilience). Guess they're trying to pull a Dark Angel thing on her...
Anything else?
Femerus the Gnecro
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I've actually seen the Pilot episode... it's really quite good.
Very dark.
I don't want to spoil any of it, but I think it'll be well recieved by the same crowd that goes for Buffy, Smallville, Witchblade, etc. (Guilty!)
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Very dark.
I don't want to spoil any of it, but I think it'll be well recieved by the same crowd that goes for Buffy, Smallville, Witchblade, etc. (Guilty!)
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Ranger REG
Explorer
I've heard that after the pilot episode (possibly reshooting the first episode) the show will take on a lighter tone than what they did in the pilot. A lot of visual changes include changing the computer in the bell tower from black to silver.
Is it safe to assume the show is taking place in the (alternate) future and have no relationship nor bearing with Smallville setting?
Is it safe to assume the show is taking place in the (alternate) future and have no relationship nor bearing with Smallville setting?
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Chun-tzu
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I've seen the original pilot. It seems they're re-shooting the scenes with Sherilyn Fenn, since they have certain plans for her character that conflicted with Ms. Fenn's schedule. I think I read one of the set's being redone as well.
The pilot is well-done. It's got a decent plot and writing, and it looks very slick. It made me believe in the show's potential. I think it's being put on against the West Wing, so thank God I have a VCR and can tape one and watch the other.
The show is much like Smallville. I like Smallville, the characters are interesting (some more than others), and the actresses are gorgeous (which isn't enough to get me to watch, but it's icing on the cake). Some of the stories are quite good, while many are fairly mediocre. But it has potential. This is my assessment of Birds of Prey, so far. Hopefully, on both shows, the creators have learned from Smallville's first season and will move away from the shallow villain-of-the-week formula.
The pilot is well-done. It's got a decent plot and writing, and it looks very slick. It made me believe in the show's potential. I think it's being put on against the West Wing, so thank God I have a VCR and can tape one and watch the other.
The show is much like Smallville. I like Smallville, the characters are interesting (some more than others), and the actresses are gorgeous (which isn't enough to get me to watch, but it's icing on the cake). Some of the stories are quite good, while many are fairly mediocre. But it has potential. This is my assessment of Birds of Prey, so far. Hopefully, on both shows, the creators have learned from Smallville's first season and will move away from the shallow villain-of-the-week formula.
Mark
CreativeMountainGames.com
I hope they don't remove too much of the darkness from it. I'd hate for them to make it lighter and then turn it into some sort of "soap opera-y" thing. I think that seems to be a trend with some shows that begin with the promise of being dark and then delve too far into character and relationship development.
Ranger REG
Explorer
Actually, I like character development. Don't care for the hokie "villain of the week" scheme. That is so 1970's.
They only mean to lighten it up just a bit because the pilot episode was deemed too dark.
They only mean to lighten it up just a bit because the pilot episode was deemed too dark.
Mark
CreativeMountainGames.com
Too dark visually or by virtue of its plot content?
I'm not against character development, per se, either. It just seems that too many shows become less about the telling the episodic tales and more about what's happening with one or two characters, depending upon which are proving to be popular among particular demographics.
I'm not against character development, per se, either. It just seems that too many shows become less about the telling the episodic tales and more about what's happening with one or two characters, depending upon which are proving to be popular among particular demographics.
Viking Bastard
Adventurer
There used to be a comic book named Birds of Prey sometime pre-Crisis.
Shared a paralell universe with the JSA and an aged Supes.
Shared a paralell universe with the JSA and an aged Supes.
