bite/claw/claw/wing/wing/tail in 6 seconds??
Visualizing Dragons
I have gotten the impression most of you have a problem with visualization. So let's try an exercise:
Picture something about the size of a brachiosaurus. With a shorter neck, larger head, shorter better muscled legs, a longer body, and a set of teeth and claws larger than human limbs. Add in a thick heavily muscled tail and a pair of wings.
Now place yourself next to this beast. Tiny, aren't you? He decides to lay down on your PC the odds are you're rolling up a new character.
If you still need help visualizing the size difference between humans and dragons, take a trip to the zoo. Swing by the elephant enclosure during your trip. Watch as the keepers and elephants interact. Keep in mind that most adult dragons are about the size of an adult elephant. And better equiped for combat.
Give yourself sometime to fully realize this. Sit down, take up a good book, and read for awhile. Don't worry, your brain will be working on the problem while you read. After an hour or two it should hit you, them bastards is big.
True, some of the dragons you meet are going to be your size or smaller. But not all. Start thinking in terms of a toy poodle versus a great dane, only the great dane has flammable halitosis.
Expect a posting on variant dragon combat in the DnD forum sometime today.
I have gotten the impression most of you have a problem with visualization. So let's try an exercise:
Picture something about the size of a brachiosaurus. With a shorter neck, larger head, shorter better muscled legs, a longer body, and a set of teeth and claws larger than human limbs. Add in a thick heavily muscled tail and a pair of wings.
Now place yourself next to this beast. Tiny, aren't you? He decides to lay down on your PC the odds are you're rolling up a new character.
If you still need help visualizing the size difference between humans and dragons, take a trip to the zoo. Swing by the elephant enclosure during your trip. Watch as the keepers and elephants interact. Keep in mind that most adult dragons are about the size of an adult elephant. And better equiped for combat.
Give yourself sometime to fully realize this. Sit down, take up a good book, and read for awhile. Don't worry, your brain will be working on the problem while you read. After an hour or two it should hit you, them bastards is big.
True, some of the dragons you meet are going to be your size or smaller. But not all. Start thinking in terms of a toy poodle versus a great dane, only the great dane has flammable halitosis.
Expect a posting on variant dragon combat in the DnD forum sometime today.
SpikeyFreak
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And you would be correct.Wolf72 said:
--Conditional Spikey
Malcor Sylverwood
Explorer
And how could it fly, the physics don't allow...
And how could it breathe fire, what sense does that make?
Etc.
And how could it breathe fire, what sense does that make?
Etc.
reapersaurus
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Good idea Mythusmage (the visualization)
Many people just don't seem to realize HOW big dragons (and dinosaurs) really ARE.
Many people just don't seem to realize HOW big dragons (and dinosaurs) really ARE.
who ever said that just because dragons are large creatures that they have to have poor dexterity?
Have you seen the muscles ripple on them buggers? and theyhave magical movement which makes them even more dexterous.
So the physics would tell you that they should be slow and hard to maneuver because of their size... inertia and torque and what not- but who do youconsider more dexterous? you or a dog? why is that? shouldn't it be the dog since youhave longer limbs and shoukd therefore be less able to maneuver than the dog?
dragons live for thousands of years and in that time- learn to use their limbs extremely well... and so 6 attacks per round is not a surprise...
and who said that they had to be 6 separate attacks? who said that while it was hitting you with a claw, the mouth had to be out of the area? can't you visualize a dragon making a claw and a bite at the sme time? or a wing and a claw? or how abou both wings and a bite? both claws and a bite at the same time...?
damn.. they is strong
Have you seen the muscles ripple on them buggers? and theyhave magical movement which makes them even more dexterous.
So the physics would tell you that they should be slow and hard to maneuver because of their size... inertia and torque and what not- but who do youconsider more dexterous? you or a dog? why is that? shouldn't it be the dog since youhave longer limbs and shoukd therefore be less able to maneuver than the dog?
dragons live for thousands of years and in that time- learn to use their limbs extremely well... and so 6 attacks per round is not a surprise...
and who said that they had to be 6 separate attacks? who said that while it was hitting you with a claw, the mouth had to be out of the area? can't you visualize a dragon making a claw and a bite at the sme time? or a wing and a claw? or how abou both wings and a bite? both claws and a bite at the same time...?
damn.. they is strong
Shard O'Glase
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I always had a problem with dragons and 6 attacks, not because t didn't make sense for them to attack 6 times or whatever, but because they never fit my vision for a dragon in a fight. Maybe its because I saw to many movies where they fight dragons, but I prefer the dragons styalistically having roughly one semi-accurate attack a round. The attack should be absolutely devastating though. Instead of 6 attacks at + something absurd to hit, for lots of damage. I prefer one attack at something decent to hit, doing absurd damage. You know something like +20 to hit for the great wyrm but for 5d20+100. Basicaly you get hit, you're almost guaranteed to die, so don't get hit by a dragon. Then again this may be more of a problem with the hp system.
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