Bizarre Tactics & Combos

[Hypersmurf]

My DM ruled that because the source flame was on the head of the character, there is no way that he can avoid the blinding effect appart from the save

That's not what I'm concerned about.

I don't know if I'd allow Continual Flame to qualify as "a fire" for the purpose of Pyrotechnics.

I'm inclined to say it's not really fire at all.

-Hyp.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Nice!

For just this reason, I advise all wizards to keep their components in various different pockets -- and advise all clerics to have at least two backup holy symbols.

Daniel

You can also use your AoO against spellcasting to "disarm" them, taking away their components or holy symbols. Or you make a trip attack, for if you are face-down in the dust, you'll have hard time finishing your incantations!

 

[Fade]

Old one, but:

Use Mind Switch on your opponent. Use Body Fuel to drain all their physical stats to 0 (free action). Con = 0 so the body dies, so Mind Switch ends automatically, with you back in your original body and them dead. It only takes the one action and you end up making a net profit in power points.

 

[Storminator]

Can I post a dragon tactic?

Cast Antimagic field on a claw of a big dragon. Snatch the wizard with that claw...

PS

 

[LokiDR]

Never tried it but:

Fire eyes, from MotW, allows for sight through natural fires. A few bonfires, lots of wet grass, and a mess of low level rangers with bows.

 

[gfunk]

Great very high-level strategy for dealing with melee beasts or any foes that cannot fly:

Cast Quickened Haste
Cast a 20' diamter Gate above their head (to something suitably nasty like the Negative Energy Plane or Elemental Plane of Earth)
Cast Reverse Gravity to cover the area between targets and Gate
Cease concentration on Gate as a free action and sever the interplanar connection

End Result: Your enemies are pretty screwed unless they can Plane Shift as a spell-like ability.

No save, no SR.

 

[Vaxalon]

Can I post a dragon tactic?

Cast Antimagic field on a claw of a big dragon. Snatch the wizard with that claw...

PS

Sorry to disappoint, but AMF isn't a targeted spell. When the dragon moved his claw to attack, the spell would stay where it was.

Don't worry. This is a common "creative rules interpretation".

 

[Pielorinho]

You can also use your AoO against spellcasting to "disarm" them, taking away their components or holy symbols. Or you make a trip attack, for if you are face-down in the dust, you'll have hard time finishing your incantations!

I don't think you can actually use an AoO to disarm them, although I may be wrong on this: I think you have to use the "attack an attended object" rules. The reason I rule this way is:
1) Those rules are there, so you may as well use them; and
2) Whereas you have to stick a weapon into someone's personal space in order to wound them, you can keep spell components and holy symbols close to your body, making it harder for someone to knock them out of your hand.

As for the trip attack, I've been wondering this same thing. What sort of Concentration check would be required to finish a spell while being tripped? Keep in mind that you can continue casting a spell even if someone smacks you on the head with a greatclub while you're casting it, as long as you make your Con check.

I'm thinking this would require a DC 15 + spell level Concentration check to avoid losing the spell. It's still a pretty good tactic for a fighter.

Of course, a better tactic is to grapple the wizard: unless the wizard is holding a dagger in her off-hand, your grapple is very likely to succeed (no AoO if your target is unarmed), and if your grapple succeeds, the spell automatically fails unless it has no somatic component.

Daniel

 

[Vaxalon]

Hm, I wonder what modifications to the grapple rules would be required to put a hand over the mouth at the same time?

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I don't think you can actually use an AoO to disarm them, although I may be wrong on this:

I don't see why not.

In fact, this is not my own idea, but comes from wizards themselves: they used it in one "Gamestoppers" installment, depicting disarm (and charge, bull rush and overrun as well, IIRC). They had the old joke in it:
DM "OK, Krusk, you successfully disarmed the enemy and hold his weapon."
Krusk "Weapon? Nonono, I disarmhim. I tear his arm out. The other thing would be a strategic move and I don't do those."