Bladesinger and Duelist AC bonus... do they stack?

[Arravis]

Anyone know if the Bladesinger Int AC bonus stacks with the Duelist Int AC bonus? They seem to be different types of bonuses...

 

[silentspace]

They both seem to be dodge bonuses, so technically speaking they should stack. I think most DMs would disallow it, though.

 

[Arravis]

I disagree. Dodge bonuses are clearly stated to stack. I plan to allow them in my game, I was just curious if there was anything to refute this. We try to follow pretty closely in this campaign, so I wanted to make sure it was by the book.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

While dodge bonuses stack, this is clearly the case of "same bonus that doesn't stack". Both make you get your Int bonus to Dex (with the limit of the class level). I wouldn't allow anyone getting twice his Int bonus to AC.

 

[CRGreathouse]

I wouldn't let the bonuses stack, but I'd let th class levels stack -- a duelist1/bladesinger1 could add up to 2 points of his Int bonus to AC in my campaign.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I wouldn't let the bonuses stack, but I'd let th class levels stack -- a duelist1/bladesinger1 could add up to 2 points of his Int bonus to AC in my campaign.

I second that

 

[Master Psion]

That's a tricky one. They're unnamed bonuses which, by the rules, stack with everything. The way they are worded, they seem as though they are dodge bonuses, which also stack. They aren't Int bonuses. The bonus is just determined by your Int modifier. I'd allow them to stack considering those facts. There should be an errata on the two PrC's that names the two bonuses but I haven't seen one.

 

[Plane Sailing]

I wouldn't let the bonuses stack, but I'd let th class levels stack -- a duelist1/bladesinger1 could add up to 2 points of his Int bonus to AC in my campaign.

This is exactly the way I'd rule it.

 

[Hypersmurf]

What's the wording of the Bladesinger ability?

-Hyp.

 

[Master Psion]

What's the wording of the Bladesinger ability?

-Hyp.

Bladesong Style: When wielding a longsword in one hand (and nothing in the other), the Bladesinger gains a dodge bonus to AC equal to his Intelligence modifier.

That's the excerpt from the Tome and Blood.