Boots of Speed/Spring Attack

[AGGEMAM]

I don't agree, though, as I've stated. I say no "charge" with Spring Attack.

And then we are back to the point were you say: the 'an' in spring attack should be errated to a 'the' meaning the attack action, but the current rules say: an 'an' meaning any attack action. And I say: There is no error to errate.

(Sorry people, if this was complicated, I guess you have to have followed the discussion to understand it.)

 

[ForceUser]

(1) Partial Charge to close, with at least 10 feet of movement before the attack, movement must be in a straight line, and you must attack in the first square in which you threaten your opponent. You may then attack at the end of your charge.

Wait wait wait wait wait. You're suggesting that the character can attack twice on a charge with spring attack? That's absurd! I would think that the character charges into a spring attack and ends the action with one attack (a charge that avoids an AoO), not one for the charge and another for the spring attack. You really think it works like this? I just don't believe it.

 

[Ristamar]

You really think it works like this? I just don't believe it.

It only works if you're hasted.

 

[AGGEMAM]

Wait wait wait wait wait.

Read the topic line, it is regarding Boot of Speed and Spring Attack, now breathe, and post a disclaimer.

 

[Artoomis]

And then we are back to the point were you say: the 'an' in spring attack should be errated to a 'the' meaning the attack action, but the current rules say: an 'an' meaning any attack action. And I say: There is no error to errate.

(Sorry people, if this was complicated, I guess you have to have followed the discussion to understand it.)

Actually, for anyone who has trouble adjuticating Spring Attack, the easiest way to handle it is to allow:

When you make a normal "single attack + move" standard action, you can move both before and after the attack with this feat - and if you do so, you gain the additional benefit of nor provoking any movement-related attacks of opportunity from the one you attacked.

I think that's the way it was intended to work, and that's the easiest way to handle it. The Sage does not agree. Nor, obviously, does AGGEMAM. I present it as free advice for those who like to keep things simple.

 

[ForceUser]

I see. Then what was meant was

[HASTED ACTION: partial charge][STANDARD ACTION: attack + spring away]

And we're back to the "But are you sure you can spring attack on a partial charge?" question again and the ensuing murkiness.

No disclaimer necessary, thanks.

 

[AGGEMAM]

And we're back to the "But are you sure you can spring attack on a partial charge?" question again and the ensuing murkiness.

Oh yeah, all spring attack needs to trigger is an attack action, that is it. No movement is nescesseary at all.

 

[Artoomis]

Oh yeah, all spring attack needs to trigger is an attack action, that is it. No movement is nescesseary at all.

??

Of course you need movement as well - otherwise its not a Spring Attack.

If you are of the camp that any ol' attack will do - even one done with a charge, then a partial charge may be done with a Spring Attack.

It's simple, really, isn't it?

 

[AGGEMAM]

Of course you need movement as well - otherwise its not a Spring Attack.

According to the feat description, you really don't have to move at all, of course, you will not be getting any benefits if you do not, but that is beside the point.

 

[Lela]

??

Of course you need movement as well - otherwise its not a Spring Attack.

If you are of the camp that any ol' attack will do - even one done with a charge, then a partial charge may be done with a Spring Attack.

It's simple, really, isn't it?

I think so. But, then again, I've never run into Haste, one of those generally complexifing spells.

[Weren't all words made up by someone?]