Bracers of Striking & weapon adjustment spells

[Brekki]

The Bracers of Striking (from MoF) can be modified with special weapon abilities, as if it was a blunt weapon.

Would casting "Greater Magic Weapon", or any other weapon effecting spell on the bracers effect the damage/attack/etc made with the characters hands/claws, or wouldn't it ?

 

[AGGEMAM]

GMW would have the same effect with or without the bracers.

What the bracers does is to make your unarmed strikes virtual weapons which can be imbued with enhancement bonuses and special abilities just as if they were a normal blunt weapon.

Eg, you could have a Bracers of Striking +2, Flaming. It would cost 37,310 gp.

 

[Brekki]

That's not what I mean.

When you fight with your hands, and get "magic weapon" cast on them, it doesn't do anything, because you need "magic fang".

What I mean is this. Casting "magic weapon" on a weapon makes it better. Does casting "magic weapon" on the bracers make the unarmed attack better ?

Example:
You have Bracers of Striking +1, and the wizard lvl 6 casts "Weapon of Impact" and "Greater Magic Weapon" on the bracers.

Will they now function as Impact Bracers of Striking +2 ?

 

[AGGEMAM]

Okay, maybe I didn't explain it very well, I'll try harder.

GMW has the same effect with or without the bracers !!!

Unarmed Strikes are weapons and therefore a valid target of GMW.

 

[Azger]

Actually it doesn't say enhancement bonuses. The description of the item only says special abilities, thus you probably can't have bracers of striking +2. Also allowing that would totally negate the amulet of mighty fists that is in the Sword & Fist which cost considerably more than the equivalent bracers of striking.

Also GMW does not affect natual weapons, so can't use it on your fists. You would need greater magic fang.

GMW would have the same effect with or without the bracers.

What the bracers does is to make your unarmed strikes virtual weapons which can be imbued with enhancement bonuses and special abilities just as if they were a normal blunt weapon.

Eg, you could have a Bracers of Striking +2, Flaming. It would cost 37,310 gp.

 

[AGGEMAM]

Also GMW does not affect natual weapons, so can't use it on your fists. You would need greater magic fang.

GMW doesn't say that.

EDIT: Please note the save and SR. (harmless, object) only means it can be cast on object and is beneficial in nature. And despite popular belief MW or GMW does affect natural weapons. MF and GMF however is restricted to nnatural weapons.

 

[Caliban]

Okay, maybe I didn't explain it very well, I'll try harder.

GMW has the same effect with or without the bracers !!!

Unarmed Strikes are weapons and therefore a valid target of GMW.

Not for the purposes of the GMW spell. It only affects manufactured weapons, not natural weapons. That's what Magic Fang and Greater Magic Fang are for.

 

[AGGEMAM]

Not for the purposes of the GMW spell. It only affects manufactured weapons, not natural weapons. That's what Magic Fang and Greater Magic Fang are for.

And where do you see that restriction ?

Magic Fang are Druid and Ranger spells, Magic weapon are for the rest.

 

[KarinsDad]

And where do you see that restriction ?

Magic Fang are Druid and Ranger spells, Magic weapon are for the rest.

MW and GMW only affect weapons. It is in their spell descriptions.

Unarmed Strike changes an unarmed attack to an armed one.

There is a difference between an armed attack and a weapon. Unarmed Strike does not turn Monks hands into weapons, it turns their attacks into armed attacks.

 

[AGGEMAM]

MW and GMW only affect weapons. It is in their spell descriptions.

Yes, and here is the quote for weapon description of Strike, unarmed:

From the SRD

Simple Weapons-Melee
Range
Weapon Cost Damage Critical Increment Weight Type**
------ ---- ------ -------- --------- ------ ------
Unarmed Attacks
Gauntlet 2 gp * * - 2 lb. (B)
Strike, unarmed (Medium-size) - 1d3S X2 - - (B)
Strike, unarmed (Small) - 1d2S X2 - - (B)



Strike, Unarmed: A Medium-size character deals 1d3 points of subdual damage with an unarmed strike, which may be a punch, kick, head butt, or other type of attack. A Small character deals 1d2 points of subdual damage. The damage from an unarmed strike is considered weapon damage for the purposes of effects that provide a bonus to weapon damage.
Use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply a character's Dexterity modifier instead of the Strength modifier to attack rolls with an unarmed strike.