# Breaking tabletop games with funny shapped dice!

#### MoonSong

##### Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin

We then moved to ladders and chutes, with that dice rolling (falling on snakes recharges your dice up, while getting on a ladder reduces your dice). And now I'm weighting which game could be fun to break next. Which games should we try? Risk, Monopoly, some other game? Which games can be broken by having extra or less swinginess, an extended range or a reduced one?

#### Richards

##### Hero
My first thought was Yahtzee with 5d8, although you'd need to make your own score cards, since you'd now have to account for 7s and 8s at the top half of the sheet. And it would be more difficult getting a full house, 3 of a kind, and 4 of a kind (not to mention a Yahtzee) when there are now 8 options for each die to land on. Of course, you could go the other way and use 5d4, but that would make a large straight impossible (unless you decided a large straight was four in a row and went to 3 in a row for a small straight).

Johnathan

#### Blue

##### Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
My first thought was Yahtzee with 5d8, although you'd need to make your own score cards, since you'd now have to account for 7s and 8s at the top half of the sheet. And it would be more difficult getting a full house, 3 of a kind, and 4 of a kind (not to mention a Yahtzee) when there are now 8 options for each die to land on. Of course, you could go the other way and use 5d4, but that would make a large straight impossible (unless you decided a large straight was four in a row and went to 3 in a row for a small straight).

Johnathan
I wonder if increasing the dice sides by +33% would be offset by increasing the dice rolls by +33% - in other word using d8s but also moving up to four rolls.

We'd also need to rejigger the threshold for the top bonus. And the total point inflation will make other points relatively, such as the yahtzee itself. On the other hand, with two more sets of rolls (sets of 7 and sets of 8), there's more chance of filling in some of the hard-to-get ones like that yahtzee instead of taking a zero.

#### Eltab

##### Hero
I see using d4s in Monopoly will give whoever goes first (or gets out in front on the first turn) the motive to buy everything he lands on and use everybody else's rent payments as funding to keep it up all the way around the board.
It might make for shorter games.

#### Bohandas

My first thought was Yahtzee with 5d8, although you'd need to make your own score cards, since you'd now have to account for 7s and 8s at the top half of the sheet. And it would be more difficult getting a full house, 3 of a kind, and 4 of a kind (not to mention a Yahtzee) when there are now 8 options for each die to land on. Of course, you could go the other way and use 5d4, but that would make a large straight impossible (unless you decided a large straight was four in a row and went to 3 in a row for a small straight).

or if it wrapped around (ie. 12341, 23412. 34123, and 41234)

EDIT:Nevermind, that's effectively the same thing, isn't it?

#### Deset Gled

##### .
I see using d4s in Monopoly will give whoever goes first (or gets out in front on the first turn) the motive to buy everything he lands on and use everybody else's rent payments as funding to keep it up all the way around the board.
It might make for shorter games.

D4's in Monopoly would really screw with things. It would result in less cash in the game, which would lead to more auctioning and slower building. The red monopoly would go down in value and the railroads would go up. Could be fun.

How about Catan with a d12? That will change up the resources and planning quite a bit.