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Buffy 14 April 03
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Merlion
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Ok I am SO going to love it when this preacher guy gets his butt kicked! Its been a while since a villian has just pissed me off this much.
Although the fact that theirs going to be a repeat next week pisses me off almost as much. Finaly we're starting to actualy have some things happen, and we get a rerun!
So, theories on whats going to happen?
Is Jasmine on ANgel another aspect of the First? Is buffy going to die again?
Although the fact that theirs going to be a repeat next week pisses me off almost as much. Finaly we're starting to actualy have some things happen, and we get a rerun!
So, theories on whats going to happen?
Is Jasmine on ANgel another aspect of the First? Is buffy going to die again?
Chun-tzu
First Post
Some random comments...
Hey, UPN! Enough with the reruns already! Don't start a countdown when you're going to keep interrupting it.
I wonder if any show in the history of television has had so many characters switch back and forth between good guy and bad guy: Angel, Faith, Spike, Willow, Andrew, Anya.
Seeing Caleb (and of course, Jasmine last week) also made me miss Firefly.
I remember someone had a theory that Xander's fate was to become a Watcher, sometime in the future. For some reason, today's episode makes me think that's very likely.
Faith wasn't as cool as she was over in Angel. I guess there are few people for her to interact with in an interesting way, with Buffy and Spike being the main ones, but it wasn't nearly as interesting as seeing her with Wesley.
This is a minor nitpick, but I wish they'd show Buffy as a smarter tactician. When Caleb starts clobbering them all left and right, without breaking a sweat, she should have switched to more lethal tactics than just trying to punch or kick him. Buffy's a great fighter, of course, but she still has much to learn, despite what she tells Giles. She should have tried a choke attack, or stabbing him in the neck, kncking him down and grappling him, or something along those lines, because it was obvious that her best punch wouldn't faze him.
Speaking of the rift between Buffy and Giles, they better fix that before the series ends (and I'm sure they will). We can't have the show ending with Buffy and her "dad" not getting along.
Hey, UPN! Enough with the reruns already! Don't start a countdown when you're going to keep interrupting it.
I wonder if any show in the history of television has had so many characters switch back and forth between good guy and bad guy: Angel, Faith, Spike, Willow, Andrew, Anya.
Seeing Caleb (and of course, Jasmine last week) also made me miss Firefly.
I remember someone had a theory that Xander's fate was to become a Watcher, sometime in the future. For some reason, today's episode makes me think that's very likely.
Faith wasn't as cool as she was over in Angel. I guess there are few people for her to interact with in an interesting way, with Buffy and Spike being the main ones, but it wasn't nearly as interesting as seeing her with Wesley.
This is a minor nitpick, but I wish they'd show Buffy as a smarter tactician. When Caleb starts clobbering them all left and right, without breaking a sweat, she should have switched to more lethal tactics than just trying to punch or kick him. Buffy's a great fighter, of course, but she still has much to learn, despite what she tells Giles. She should have tried a choke attack, or stabbing him in the neck, kncking him down and grappling him, or something along those lines, because it was obvious that her best punch wouldn't faze him.
Speaking of the rift between Buffy and Giles, they better fix that before the series ends (and I'm sure they will). We can't have the show ending with Buffy and her "dad" not getting along.
Merlion
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Caleb's comment about Xander being the one who sees...and his attempt to blind him...hmm...does this have deeper meaning? As someone already pointed out theirs Xander and Dawn's discussion which means the first has been spying for a long time. but beyond that...saying that someone "sees" in a fantasy context can be a pretty big deal...especialy when you follow it by trying to blind them. Perhaps Xander isnt as ordinary as we think....
He saved the world from Evil Willow. Perhaps he's going to be rather important this time..
He saved the world from Evil Willow. Perhaps he's going to be rather important this time..
Wormwood
Adventurer
Overall it was fun, but I was disappointed on one point.
Caleb's introduction was auspicious. He became, in the course of 20 minutes, one of the most intriguing villains in the show's hostory (IMHO). The actor was dead-on perfect, both frightening and charismatic---my wife and I were both buzzing about how cool he was...and he was still in his truck!
Caleb benefitted from really good writing coupled with a fine performance (compare with Glory, who was written well put played poorly, or Adam who had the opposite problem).
Then, after this suspenseful and engaging build-up, the best the writers could come up with was a slugfest. I mean---that's it? All Caleb brings to the table is good dialog and a good right hook?Granted, it was one of the finest (and graphic) fights recent Buffy memory...but I found mysefl cold.
I was hoping Caleb would be more than just another pugilist. We've seen the 'really strong guy' a bunch of times on this show. Couldn't they have had this character attack the scoobs from another angle?
Oh well. Good episode---great character. I just hope they do *more* with him.
Caleb's introduction was auspicious. He became, in the course of 20 minutes, one of the most intriguing villains in the show's hostory (IMHO). The actor was dead-on perfect, both frightening and charismatic---my wife and I were both buzzing about how cool he was...and he was still in his truck!
Caleb benefitted from really good writing coupled with a fine performance (compare with Glory, who was written well put played poorly, or Adam who had the opposite problem).
Then, after this suspenseful and engaging build-up, the best the writers could come up with was a slugfest. I mean---that's it? All Caleb brings to the table is good dialog and a good right hook?Granted, it was one of the finest (and graphic) fights recent Buffy memory...but I found mysefl cold.
I was hoping Caleb would be more than just another pugilist. We've seen the 'really strong guy' a bunch of times on this show. Couldn't they have had this character attack the scoobs from another angle?
Oh well. Good episode---great character. I just hope they do *more* with him.
Dr Midnight
Explorer
Yeah, but I think Caleb may well be THE STRONGEST humanoid we've ever seen on the show, with the exceptions of MAYBE Glory and the ubervamp. I mean, two full-fledged slayers, a small army of slayers junior, a deadly watcher, one of the best fighters in the Buffyverse history (Spike), and an apoclyptic wicca (in theory)... and he was toying with them. He didn't chase them, he just had some fun, made some quips and let them run free. What has ever hit Buffy that hard?Wormwood said:
I thought he was going to be something different as well, but I was quite pleased to see just how powerful he was. I guess I'm just happy to see something send a high-level party squealing.
The Xander eye poke made me cringe and grunt "Euugh!!" I really wasn't expecting that. He's the Zeppo... he never takes REAL damage. This was good to see.
The roleplaying between Caleb and The First was very cool as well. "Ooh, wait, there was this girl... be her." Fun evil goodies.
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