Buffy 14 April 03

[dreaded_beast]

in regards to xander losing his eye and being "the one who sees":

remember when buffy was stilling dating riley and then riley left buffy to go hunt demons in the amazon. riley was going to leave and buffy was just going to let him go and then xander was saying that why don't you go after him and something along the lines of "you don't think i see what is going on? i see everything"

 

[DanMcS]

Angel and Faith "knew of" Dawn. i don't think we've seen any proof that they "knew" her.

Faith, in the latest episode, said "Hey look, the brat's all woman-sized." And Angelus, when he called sunnydale to see which slayer was after him, said "Hey dawn, is your sister there?" So he had at least spoken to her, I guess.

 

[Staffan]

Faith, in the latest episode, said "Hey look, the brat's all woman-sized." And Angelus, when he called sunnydale to see which slayer was after him, said "Hey dawn, is your sister there?" So he had at least spoken to her, I guess.

While I think the monks remade the entire world to cover the appearance of Dawn, one could also make the case that they somehow made a kind of perimeter around Sunnydale that would change those that entered it. Angel came to Sunnydale for Joyce's funeral and could have been affected then.

Though come to think of it, didn't Dawn talk to her dad on the phone when Buffy was dead? I'm pretty sure he hasn't been to Sunnydale since season 1 or something like that...

 

[WizarDru]

riley was going to leave and buffy was just going to let him go and then xander was saying that why don't you go after him and something along the lines of "you don't think i see what is going on? i see everything"

A little earlier than that, as they were all helping Xander move out of the basement, Riley spent a good two minutes describing how wonderful being with Buffy made him feel...and then confided in Xander that she didn't love him.

Xander has always been the one with perspective, who sees what the others don't...often because he IS the normal one.

And yes, when Buffy was dead, her dad did call, checking in on Dawn's status. It was made pretty clear that they needed to maintain the fiction of Buffy being alive, or Dawn would be relocated...although one has to wonder if leaving Sunnydale would be such a bad thing.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Fighting demons and monsters on the one hand, and living with a father that doesn`t really care about his children on the other hand - I think the choice is obvious - Demons all the time

Mustrum Ridcully

 

[Lucius Foxhound]

So Caleb says "You're the one that sees. Let's see what we can do about that."

That was a conversation that Xander and Dawn had privately. Has the First been watching everyone the whole time? I guess so.

Wait... I can't remember this. What conversation did Xander and Dawn have about "seeing"?

 

[Staffan]

Fighting demons and monsters on the one hand, and living with a father that doesn`t really care about his children on the other hand - I think the choice is obvious - Demons all the time

I think the issue was more that Dawn might still be a target, and Hank Summers (probably) doesn't have what it takes to protect her.

 

[Merlion]

Wait... I can't remember this. What conversation did Xander and Dawn have about "seeing"?

I believe it was after Dawn seemed to be a Potential and then turned out not to be. He told her about how he sees everything about everyones relationships and emotions and feelings

 

[dravot]

Wait... I can't remember this. What conversation did Xander and Dawn have about "seeing"?

The episode where Dawn thinks that she's a potential slayer, and then finds out that it was Amanda, not her.

Xander talks to Dawn, saying about how hard it is to be normal and non-powery, and that he watches Dawn struggle with it, etc.

 

[Negative Zero]

Faith, in the latest episode, said "Hey look, the brat's all woman-sized." And Angelus, when he called sunnydale to see which slayer was after him, said "Hey dawn, is your sister there?" So he had at least spoken to her, I guess.

ok, so Faith wanted to throw a verbal jab at Dawn. it doesn't take any great feat of intelligence to know that Dawn is young and that young humans start out small. no big deal there. and so Angel spoke to her over the phone. you've never spoken to someone you know of but never met, when calling a friend's house? again, nothing that proves they know her.

While I think the monks remade the entire world to cover the appearance of Dawn, one could also make the case that they somehow made a kind of perimeter around Sunnydale that would change those that entered it. ...

or they could simply have affected those who would have konwn about Dawn. anyone else could have been taken care of with a "yeah, that's my sister/daughter." really would you be able to tell some woman that the kid she's claiming isn't hers when she "knows!" that she is?

~NegZ