Buffy series finale (spoilers)

[Vocenoctum]

It would have been nice to get more of this storyline but it would have needed a whole new season to really flesh out. And I totally agree about the movie, it would be great to get one as soon as Joss-ly (read: written and directed by) possible. Give this man a $100 million budget and see what he can do.

My problem with that is...
The whole season, we've had loads of Slow Moving episodes, where nothing happened. There's really no excuse to not give us more background sometime in there, IMO.

Why rush the ending so much when the whole season dragged?

Also, the old lady was part of an organization that made the axe, kept hidden from the Watchers while keeping their eyes on them.

They built an axe, hid it in a stone that only a slayer could remove it from, linked it somehow to a Slayer Force? I thought the Slayer's power's came from a demon.
Why didn't they do it sooner? (The old women)
Why did they hide the axe away from their temple?
Why didn't they give her the axe 8 world saving's ago?

What did the writing in the other church have to do with it?

::shrug:: too many plot holes to make it good. There were some great moments though.

 

[Sulimo]

This is from someone who hasn't seen the finale yet (hell, we're just passed the "is Spike biting people again" episode), but...

The New Slayers eventually hunt down every available vampire on Earth. A couple of centuries into the future, the vamps re-surface, and the first Slayer in 200 years is activated.

Her name is Melaka Fray, and she's the star of the Joss Whedon-scripted "Fray" comic book, published by Dark Horse.

Maybe this is what he intended all along?

I expect so. Only 1 issue to go. I've really enjoyed it. Hopefully Joss will now have a bit more time to write some more about Melaka...assuming she doesnt bite the big one in the final issue.

 

[Sulimo]

Well, I just got done watching it. For the most part I liked it. Quite a bit. Though I did have (and still do) have some issues...which included the de-powering of the Ubervamps...and the Medalion.

My main issue was with Spike. And how the knowledge that he'd be in Angel next year pretty much ruined his herioc death in Buffy.

I did wanta bit more closure to, given its the last ep. It felt more like the end of season three, as the start of a new chapter of the Buffy story rather than the end. Guess I wanted some kind of epilogue like in Babylon 5...a series finale that i adored and which still gets me a little teary.

Still, I have been moping around the house ever since sad comign to grips with the fact that the whole things over.

 

[John Crichton]

My problem with that is...
The whole season, we've had loads of Slow Moving episodes, where nothing happened. There's really no excuse to not give us more background sometime in there, IMO.

Why rush the ending so much when the whole season dragged?

Also, the old lady was part of an organization that made the axe, kept hidden from the Watchers while keeping their eyes on them.

They built an axe, hid it in a stone that only a slayer could remove it from, linked it somehow to a Slayer Force? I thought the Slayer's power's came from a demon.
Why didn't they do it sooner? (The old women)
Why did they hide the axe away from their temple?
Why didn't they give her the axe 8 world saving's ago?

What did the writing in the other church have to do with it?

::shrug:: too many plot holes to make it good. There were some great moments though.

I admit that the season as a whole wasn't great. None of the recent season's hold up to Seasons 2&3. However, I loved the ending but not the buildup. There were holes and the axe was not the best plot element. Doesn't change the fact that I really enjoyed the ending. The problem with this season has been that it is a season of Buffy where we are used to much more than they gave us. Doesn't change that it was still better than the majority of shows out there.

I choose not to dwell on the shortcomings of this season and have enjoyed the finale while celebrating all the joy and entertainment the overall show has given me over the years.

 

[Sulimo]

I admit that the season as a whole wasn't great. None of the recent season's hold up to Seasons 2&3. However, I loved the ending but not the buildup.

Hmmm...I'd actually rank this season highly. It's probably my fave season post High-school.

 

[Volaran]

Just a thought based on the finale, and what I've heard of Fray. As I recall, in the comic, there is an event referenced in the early twenty first century that causes the Slayer line to end.

Could this be it?

Hear me out. They changed the line so that all potentials who could be summoned were in one great moment. What if all the potential Slayer energy for hundreds of years was summoned all at once, rather than truely changing the nature of the Slayer? The series ends on a good note, with a generation filled with Slayers. My prediction, however, is that after this generation they simply die out instead of continuing the line...at least until Fray.

 

[Wayside]

::shrug:: too many plot holes to make it good. There were some great moments though.

Not so much holes as elements that just went completely unexplained. A lot of stuff from left field. All the eps that were a little slow this season could've been sprinkled with bits of information but oh well. I'm still proceeding under the impression that it aint over, so I don't mind the lack of resolution so much.

 

[John Crichton]

Hmmm...I'd actually rank this season highly. It's probably my fave season post High-school.

Hey, that works for me. I really, really enjoyed all the seasons of Buffy. I can't wait to rewatch seasons 4-7 on DVD. The only ones that stood out are 2 & 3.

 

[WisdomLikeSilence]

However, I loved the ending but not the buildup.

I've thought about it a bit, and I'll agree with Crichton here.

Almost all of my objections to the finale have to do with the season that preceded it. If the season hadn't created so many plot holes and loose threads (the most egregious of which was the Joyce prophecy), then the final episode would have been a lot more satisfying. But I can't really blame the finale for the poor build-up and lack of logic of the season. There's only so much you can resolve in an hour.

And the finale did remind me why I love the show. It demonstrated a sense of fun and respect for the characters that was sadly lacking during much of the season. I've seen the episode twice and thoroughly enjoyed it both times.

In short, really good finale, kinda lousy season.

KidCthulu, I too was expecting them to whisk the slayers off to the hospital for a little "Flatliner" type death and resurrection. Great minds and all that <smile>.

-WLS

 

[KidCthulhu]

KidCthulu, I too was expecting them to whisk the slayers off to the hospital for a little "Flatliner" type death and resurrection. Great minds and all that <smile>.

Hey, WLS! The Flatliners idea was cool. Plus, you have the whole exponential growth thing. "They killed two friends, and they killed two friends" Bad 80's hair care commercial references abounded during the commercial break for us.