Bulding BBEG Assassin - RAW Q

[Gerion of Mercadia]

Under the RAW, is it possible for a character to gain levels in a PrC beyond 10 before epic level. Campaign uses PHB, DMG, MMI - MM4 inclusive, and the ELH.

I have a Rog 5 Asn 10; Am I forced to "level" the character in a class other than Assassin?

 

[Hypersmurf]

EPIC LEVEL BASICS

Epic characters-those whose character level is 21st or higher-are handled slightly differently from nonepic characters. While epic characters continue to receive most of the benefits of gaining levels, some benefits are replaced by alternative gains. A class can be advanced beyond 20th level. A ten-level prestige class can progress beyond 10th level, but only if the character level is already 20th or higher. A class with fewer than ten levels cannot progress beyond the maximum for that class, regardless of character level.

You are forced to "level" the character in a class other than Assassin.

-Hyp.

 

[pawsplay]

Anyway, rogue levels would be in every way I can think of advantageous, apart from caster level and the death attack DC.

 

[Gerion of Mercadia]

ok - here's what I'm looking at;

pg 234 ELH

Typical Garrote Encounter (EL 30): 2 Assassins (Rog6/Asn14), 1 lead assassin (Rog 6/Asn 22), 1 specialist Rog24/Perfect Wight 6)

I'm trying to figure out how the Heck the charaters OTHER than the Perfect Wight were created. This looks like WotC is saying 1 thing on pg 5-6 and then another on pg 234. The inconsistency is hurting My head here.

 

[Nifft]

Ahhh, errors in sample NPCs.

WotC does not put their best people on those. Not in creating them, nor in editing them. I suspect each was made by a different summer intern.

It's my humble opinion that sample NPCs should always be put in a web enhancement, partly so they don't take up space in my precious books, and partly so they can fix them when crud like this comes to light.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Hypersmurf]

Ahhh, errors in sample NPCs.

Yeah. PHBII has suggested starting packages... with feats the class can't meet the prerequisites for at 1st level.

Sample PCs in PrC descriptions sometimes don't qualify for the PrC they're a sample of.

As a general guideline, if a sample character contradicts a rule, it's not implicit permission to do the same; it's a mistake.

-Hyp.

 

[Gerion of Mercadia]

Well, My thing is that what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Can somebody get a proper "fix" on this from somewhere?

In My experience - WotC web releases are even worse than published product when it comes to errors, and I have to House rule the living daylights out of any "errors" in the books themselves, using errata as guidelines, because the errata themselves have issues.

I'm sure I'm going to need a hell of a lot of backup on this one with the DM where I'm a player, not to mention My own campaign.

Reason being:

Characters that truly take PrC don't think of themselves as their core class anymore - they have this tendency to focus on the PrC - unless it is a short term "5 level" PrC. These I bar my players from using in the first darn place. Furthermore, when you have players who are starting to list 4-5 classes in their build, it enters the realm of metagaming by design... aka munchkinizing.

When WotC publishes something, and there is an error in it - you have to make a decision about that error. Inevitably that leads to rules lawyering and starts challenging consistency, because everybody wants to have things a particular way.


Heck, another one of my pet peeves.

"arcane spells don't do healing"

Yet Bards get CLW on their spell list, why not Wizards?

Gives Me an idea - complaints thread.

 

[Shazman]

Under the RAW, is it possible for a character to gain levels in a PrC beyond 10 before epic level. Campaign uses PHB, DMG, MMI - MM4 inclusive, and the ELH.

I have a Rog 5 Asn 10; Am I forced to "level" the character in a class other than Assassin?

The closest you can come to is getting levels of uncanny trickster from Complete Scoundrel after your 10th level of assassain. It's a three level class that let's you advance the class abilities of any other class you have at 2nd and 3rd levels. You use the hit dice, BAB, and skills of the uncanny trickster for these levels, but get the class abilities of another class.

 

[gardengoth]

"arcane spells don't do healing"

Yet Bards get CLW on their spell list, why not Wizards?

Have a lookie at Healing Touch on page 100 of the Book of Exalted Deeds. It's s bit *ahem* dicey, but it does the trick.

 

[Gerion of Mercadia]

Don't own Book of Exalted Deeds