Call to the Four Lands

[J. Alexander]

Stuff

occ: like i said it could take some time to plan..have to get the permission of several wifes etc and then work out a date...perhaps as a tenative goal..labor day next year?

Nope not a trap

 

[Dracomeander]

Neurotic, you must have just skimmed Ewan's report. He stated the distance to what appeared to be a body of men at 150 yards. Beyond the range of most detection divinations.

 

[Neurotic]

Andor

Yes, I haven't seen any reference to distance and we are talking about creek so I assumed not too far from us. I'll re-read. But tactics offered stand, it's just that we'll need to be closer Except for Augury of course

 

[Neurotic]

Southern operatives

Hm, I guess it needed some time after re-subsubscription. I receive notifications again.

DM: what about legacy items for Andor? Are these still in progress there are no suitables or life gems serve as substitute?


I'd like to discuss/suggest something. I know there are plenty of optional rules regarding this, but still.

Consider synergy bonuses from skills. Once you reach 5 and get synergy (let's say +2 to turning check with religion) you have no incentive to go higher except to recognize undead...

Couldn't it be +1 per 5 levels? Or on +10 you get +1 to effective level thus becoming able to turn one more HD on +15 +2 to turning damage and on +20 partial immunity or bonuses to saving throws vs. special effects of undead.

Maybe replace specific SKILL LEVEL requirement with SKILL ROLL with set DC?
Religion:
DC 10 +1 to turn check +1/5 extra
DC 15 +1 turning damage +1/5 extra
DC 20 +1 saving throw +1/5 extra
DC 25 +1 level +1/5 extra

(replace undead with specific knowledge details, spells for arcane or bonuses to spellcraft, natural beasts and survival for nature, sense motive/bluff/diplomacy/poison knowledge for nobility etc.)

Check this one out for example

 

[J. Alexander]

Andor

Neurotic, thanks for the suggestions but I already have Andor's item created, the delay has been due to my idea of introudcing Andor to his item during actual game play as kind of a little side adventure on the way to meet up with the Lord Marshall...as i was remiss in not getting it done before game play started and it would give Andor a little more face time etc....so be patient..i think your going to like it.

 

[Neurotic]

No problem, I just wanted to know. Life gems are pretty cool themselves as exotic crystals in world where it's hard to come by such things

What about censuring the demons with turning attempts? That's in PHB2, not some wild internet rule...

 

[Leif]

What about censuring the demons with turning attempts? That's in PHB2, not some wild internet rule...

If you don't mind, where in phII is that? I was curious, but I can't seem to find it.

 

[Neurotic]

I don't mind

I'm sure I've seen it in one of main books (PHB, DMG and Complete), but for the life of me I cannot find it (except for Knight of Chalice PrC in complete warrior).

When I have time I'll find it for you...maybe in PHB 3.5 instead of 2 ?

 

[Leif]

I've looked, too

I'm sure I've seen it in one of main books (PHB, DMG and Complete), but for the life of me I cannot find it (except for Knight of Chalice PrC in complete warrior). When I have time I'll find it for you...maybe in PHB 3.5 instead of 2 ?

I've checked in ph, phII, DMG, and complete divine, and I find not one word about turning affecting demons or devils. I know that this was the case back in DND1, but it seems to have fallen by the wayside. I was hoping that you knew where the rule was located, because I still pine for First Edition!

The only rule that I have been able to find about clerics turning/destroying/rebuking/controlling and creature except for undead is where, for example, clerics of a water deity can rebuke/control water creatures or turn/destroy fire creatures.

 

[J. Alexander]

DM Ruling

Having heard the pleas of the player character your all might dm has also reviewed and investigated the matter but as with the pc's nothing clear was found. Therfore using that old favorite line in the original ADD that states DM's are supreme in their worlds i hereby decree the following:

It makes no sense that a cleric of lawyful good alignement could not exorcise or turn a devil or demon...especially in this world so if you are a cleric of the church of light you can turn devils and demons as if they were undead. I will work out some rules for their turning but I think they will use the hit dice and get a small bonus to their turning difficulty depending on the nature of the beastie.