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I can see one standard attack with a rapier where a Power Attack mechanic makes sense - the lunge. Also remember, the original rapiers were not the thin flimsy blades we think of today. The original rapiers were just slightly thinner than a longsword and had defined edges for slashing as well as thrusting. They were just more commonly used with the thrust and jab to keep the opponent back.
 

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Yes, you refer to weapon known as epee today...there are (as far as I know) 4 'fencing' weapons (epee, sabre, rapier and smallsword)

epee is combat weapon, heavy version of rapier we all know and love from Musketeers, rapier is primarily stabbing weapon, smallsword became popular as non-lethal duels were became fashionable among french nobles at the time and war was something remote.

I'm not sure what fencer schools mean by sabre...maybe that cavalry thing? narrow, single bladed curved pointy thing?

Hope I didn't confuse references there :)
 

Mowgli said:
Three Rangers in contention, then - Ranger/Wizard (Pandak), Ranger/Cleric (Conrad), Ranger/Druid (Hennett). If we all three make it in, we'll be some Rangin' Dudes.

Pandak has all of the basic Knowledge Skills except Local in abundance. He's got Craft Magic Arms/Armor and Craft Wondrous Items, and Professional Skills as a Prospector and as a Mason. Designed to be both smith and mason, but I'm not worried at all about duplication - the more the merrier!

As a scout/druid I expect Aeric has a similar skill set. All the better for colonizing the wilderness, but we may find ourselves limited in other arenas.
 

Neurotic said:
Yes, you refer to weapon known as epee today...there are (as far as I know) 4 'fencing' weapons (epee, sabre, rapier and smallsword)

epee is combat weapon, heavy version of rapier we all know and love from Musketeers, rapier is primarily stabbing weapon, smallsword became popular as non-lethal duels were became fashionable among french nobles at the time and war was something remote.

I'm not sure what fencer schools mean by sabre...maybe that cavalry thing? narrow, single bladed curved pointy thing?


The foil is the flimsy, bendy fencing weapon that you are probably thinking of. I have a rapier at home, and it can slash quite effectively, although slashing with it would be much less effective against armor than slashing with a heavier blade.

The epee is only slightly sturdier than a foil, and nowhere near the effectiveness of a rapier. It is a fencing weapon, not a combat weapon.

A sabre is a fencing weapon, and not to be confused with a saber, which is a full on slashing weapon designed for cavalry use.
 

Dracomeander/Neurotic:

When you speak of the flimsy fencing blade, I think your intending to talk about the FOIL not the rapier or sabre. In present day fencing, my understanding is that only the foil and sabre are used. Anyway, getting back to my finesse/power attack idea, the power attack feat is limited to BAB in the addition to damage, so that in iteself answers some of the criticisms voiced for my idea. I still have seen no legitimate statement of a "Rules Reason" that would prevent weapon finesse and power attack from working together with the rapier. Although, rapier would seem to be the only weapon to which both of those feats can be applied. (Rapier is possibly the only exception to the rule that Weapon Finesse can only apply to a light weapon.)

Mowgli:

Hennett will have a more "outdoor" skill set. Lots of Survival, Tracking, Hunting, and so forth. He will primarily excel at ranged combat and will definitely prefer that to melee. He will also be a healing druid, with the Craft Wand feat. He will craft a Wand of Cure Serious Wounds at the earliest available opportunity. As far as Wild Shape goes, Hennett will prefer to take on the shape of as large and mean a Bear as possible. When an aquatic shape is desirable, a Platypus would be his preference.
 

I am aware of no rules reason why a Rapier could not be used with power attack, though that feat really comes into its own when used with two-handed weapons as the damage bonus is doubled.
 

Mowgli, I have not forgotten your offer of crafting magic items, and hope to be far enough along to make a request of your character this evening.
 


Hey, cool! I didn't know there was difference in sabre and saber (obvious after spelled this way :)) It's one of disadvantages of non-native speakers...

As for fencing, I did quick history check, not today fencing schools and I have only second hand XP with names (one college buddy fences). I'm sorry if I got it wrong...

As for feat rules, I stated earlier, I don't see any mechanical rule that would prevent such use, if I ran the game you could use both, but with STR mod as I said...
 


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