Can a Ranged Weapon be an Implement?

[Chimerasame]

Any heavy or light blade can be a throwing weapon if it has the Farbond Spellblade enchantment from AV2.

This doesn't help your swordmage much, but, any weapon at all can be an implement if it has the Weapon of Evil Undone enchantment also from AV2. Unfortunately this only allows it to count as a divine holy symbol implement (so only useful for clerics and paladins, really.) Your DM might let you use it for swordmage powers if you hybrid swordmage with cleric or paladin, but then you're looking at some pretty heavy MAD.

 

[bganon]

I forgot about Crossbow Caster.

If I were the DM, I'd just say take crossbow caster and wield a "hand crossbow" with the name filed off and replaced with "throwing hammer". Apart from range (and type, of course), the weapons are the same so the difference is mostly just fluff. Or I'd just houserule a "Dwarven Hammercaster" feat that does essentially the same thing, but that's a different forum.

In any case, while there may not technically be a rule that specifically allows it, there's clearly precedent for such a thing, and it seems like the cost is always just a single feat.

 

[Destil]

I'm still very sour on lack of the the feat mentioned in the 4E previews that let you use any weapon as an implement.

(And the implement rules in general, of course.)

 

[Tale]

I'm still very sour on lack of the the feat mentioned in the 4E previews that let you use any weapon as an implement.

(And the implement rules in general, of course.)

Where's my hitting two targets with Eldritch Blast?

Eh, female Tiefling Warlock from the video with the Gnome?

 

[Danceofmasks]

Spend an AP.

 

[Tale]

Spend an AP.

I want to save that AP for kicking the minion!

 

[WalterKovacs]

I'm still very sour on lack of the the feat mentioned in the 4E previews that let you use any weapon as an implement.

(And the implement rules in general, of course.)

Considering they still haven't clarified the "weapons as implement" rules, there may be some unintended consequences of mixing certain weapon group specific enchantments, feats, etc ...

Since PH3 is apparently supposed to clarify that, it would be a likely place for a general "any weapon as implement" type feat.

 

[DracoSuave]

You cannot use Arcane Implement Proficiency to get a 'Pact Hammer' because 'Pact Hammer' is a weapon enchantment, not a kind of implement.



And Mage's Weapon can't be a hammer....


huh. This is tricky.

 

[Nytmare]

Oh, oh, OH. I totally missed the part where you said "artificer" and couldn't figure out what all the fuss was about.

I can't help but wonder what the question behind the question is.

Are you trying to keep a hand free? Is there some kind of thrown, boomeranging implement combo I'm missing? Are you simply trying to get double duty out of a single item's magical bonuses?

 

[DracoSuave]

No he's trying to have a ranged weapon and an implement, and save some feat-tax from Expertise so he doesn't have to double up.