can celestial armor be given the mithral property?

[Neorealist]

That is where i disagree: the magical properties of any given specific magic item are as integral if not more so to it's functionality than it's material in my opinion.

The problem as i see it is that a specific magic item (say, the absorbing shield) isn't the same as a +1 shield, it is much more valuable and useful. So getting to enchant it like it is a plain old +1 shield is getting a rather ridiculous bargain. (this problem gets worse the more properties the specific armor or weapon has that aren't accounted for in the item creation rules)

 

[Neorealist]

I suppose you and I have differing opinions of "Plenty Powerful" but our personal opinions are just that (just our personal opinions), so i'll leave it at that.

 

[irdeggman]

Mithral is not a "property" it is a special material.

That is something that must be kept in mind. It is not an enhancement or special property that can be added to an item. The benefits are because the item is crafted of the material in the first place.

Since celestial armor is not a property but is in fact a special armor that per the description is made of silver or gold then technically you can not have a suit of mithral celestial armor.

That is per the rules as written, again as a DM you can house-rule it the way you wish. Just keep in mind the material that the item is made of and the impact of combining things like this on other items that players may wish to have the PC craft in the future. You may be opening the door for funky combinations.

 

[Cedric]

I would not allow Celestial Armor to be made out of Mithral and gain any benefit. If you look at the stats of Chainmail made out of Mithral, ignoring the built in flight, Celestial Armor is better anyway. As if, it's already made out of a better material than Mithral.

So no, I wouldn't allow it.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

As others have said, it's really the DM's call. In general, our group allows that sort of thing, and multiple characters have had celestial armor made with mithral. It's not something one is likely to find on the rack, but it's not exactly overpowering, especially as a defensive item.

Now, as for altering the material of an item...in general, there aren't any rules for that. However, I don't see why that would be a bad thing. Perhaps a feat requiring 10 ranks in Craft (Alchemy) could be used to, say, transubstantiate a block of adamantine into the sword blade, or just plain transmute it, with an appropriate GP/XP expenditure.

Brad

 

[Artoomis]

I would not allow it as it is a specific armor that must be gold or silver.

 

[Neorealist]

I would not allow it as it is a specific armor that must be gols or silver.

That is another good point, in the description of the armor it states that it's either gold or silver. One could reasonably infer from this that in order to create celestial armor you must use silver or gold, not mithril or some other variety of metal for that matter.

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

There are many references in myths and various alchemical traditions to gold and silver being inherently more "noble" than other materials and possessing an intrisic metaphyiscal connection with the Heavens.

Therefore, when they say gold or silver, I see no good reason to not take that entirely literally, and plenty of reasons to disagree with all other interpretations.

If you would allow Celestial Mithral Armor, how about Celestial Mithral Demon Rhino Hide Armor?

 

[Artoomis]

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If you would allow Celestial Mithral Armor, how about Celestial Mithral Demon Rhino Hide Armor?

Cool. Can I put Mighty, Holy , Unholy, Anarchic, Axiomatic, Ghost Touch spikes on that?

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

Someday I want to play a PC with a Holy Intelligent & Unholy Intelligent double-sword...