Can someone list all versions of D&D and explain their differences to me?

What was the version that came in a large black box (a similar size box to most board games) with a big red dragon on the front? That's what I started with. Then I got the Rules Cyclopedia shortly thereafter...

Ah, I think that black box you're referring to (mid-late 1980s?) was a kind of "intro to AD&D" set and I believe it was for 2nd edition. Kind of the same relationship between 3E and the D&D Adventure Game.

The Rules Cyclopedia was also around that time, and I think that was just about the end of the Basic D&D line. I never got to experience the book but have heard from many that it was quite good -- really covered just about everything in one big hardcover book.
 
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I'm waiting desparately for that Rules Cyclopedia to be released as an ESD; I lost my basic/expert/...Masters sets.
 
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maddman75 said:
So it appears that elves have always been for powergaming twinks then ;)
No, their experience point chart sucked. They needed 4,000 XP to get to 2nd level where the fighter only needed 2,000. It took forever to level up an elf.
 

EricNoah said:
Ah, I think that black box you're referring to (mid-late 1980s?) was a kind of "intro to AD&D" set and I believe it was for 2nd edition. Kind of the same relationship between 3E and the D&D Adventure Game.

The Rules Cyclopedia was also around that time, and I think that was just about the end of the Basic D&D line. I never got to experience the book but have heard from many that it was quite good -- really covered just about everything in one big hardcover book.

I have that book. It's actually pretty nice, except I've always disliked the Race=Class thing, and the lack of Good and Evil alignments. They really should take the mass combat system - "War Machine" - and update it for 3e, just to provide such a system for those who want it. It's rather abstract, but good for those who don't want to goof around with minis much.
 

EricNoah said:
The Rules Cyclopedia was also around that time, and I think that was just about the end of the Basic D&D line. I never got to experience the book but have heard from many that it was quite good -- really covered just about everything in one big hardcover book.

yes. it combined and revised the rules for the 5 boxed sets.

Basic, Expert, Companion, Masters, and some of the Immortals.
 

EricNoah said:


Ah, I think that black box you're referring to (mid-late 1980s?) was a kind of "intro to AD&D" set and I believe it was for 2nd edition. Kind of the same relationship between 3E and the D&D Adventure Game.

The Rules Cyclopedia was also around that time, and I think that was just about the end of the Basic D&D line. I never got to experience the book but have heard from many that it was quite good -- really covered just about everything in one big hardcover book.

The Rules Cyclopedia is very nice if you play "Basic D&D". The only thing that was not included was the detailed immortal stuff.


G.
 

EricNoah said:


Ah, I think that black box you're referring to (mid-late 1980s?) was a kind of "intro to AD&D" set and I believe it was for 2nd edition. Kind of the same relationship between 3E and the D&D Adventure Game.



It wasn't AD&D though, I know for a fact that it had elves as their own class. But yeah, it was definitely an intro product, and that would be around the right time frame. I think I got it in 87 or 88, shortly before 2nd edition came out.
 

MeepoTheMighty said:



It wasn't AD&D though, I know for a fact that it had elves as their own class. But yeah, it was definitely an intro product, and that would be around the right time frame. I think I got it in 87 or 88, shortly before 2nd edition came out.

Well that just makes the whole thing weirder! :) Seriously, I wonder what product it was supposed to be an intro to?
 


A clarification

Actually, OD&D (the 1974, pre-Basic version) did NOT feature races as classes. Halflings were limited to being fighters, so the effect was the same. Elves, OTOH, could be fighters, magic-users, or fighter/magic-users, whereas in Basic they are always fighter/magic-users. Dwarves, IIRC, were also limited to fighters, again making the distinction academic. The blue book version of D&D instituted the race=class business.
 

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