Can undead run?

[Stalker0]

Normally a "-" prevents actions that require a con score.

You can only run a number of rounds equal to your con score, and then must make con checks to keep running afterwards. Wouldn't that mean that an undead cannot run?

 

[Dracorat]

- doesn't necessarily prevent actions that require a con score. Usually the Charisma score is used instead.

Undead can run, which is evidenced by the fact that some are capable of charging.

 

[frankthedm]

Zombies have Can't Run as a limitation. Other undead don't seem to.

Run
You can run as a full-round action. (If you do, you do not also get a 5-foot step.) When you run, you can move up to four times your speed in a straight line (or three times your speed if you’re in heavy armor). You lose any Dexterity bonus to AC unless you have the Run feat.

You can run for a number of rounds equal to your Constitution score, but after that you must make a DC 10 Constitution check to continue running. You must check again each round in which you continue to run, and the DC of this check increases by 1 for each check you have made. When you fail this check, you must stop running. A character who has run to his limit must rest for 1 minute (10 rounds) before running again. During a rest period, a character can move no faster than a normal move action.

You can’t run across difficult terrain or if you can’t see where you’re going.

A run represents a speed of about 12 miles per hour for an unencumbered human.

Nonabilities
Some creatures lack certain ability scores. These creatures do not have an ability score of 0—they lack the ability altogether. The modifier for a nonability is +0.

Even if the Undead can run, RAW, it would only be a round or two before those check fail due to the DC being impossible.

Running and charging are not related on this matter. Heck zombies are amoung the only things the 3.5E ruleset allows to 'partial charge'.

 

[mvincent]

I recall reading an official article recently saying that undead can run without ever getting tired. It might've been in the recent Sage advice or the RotG (not sure).

 

[Dracorat]

Frank, if you look up the Undead template:

# Uses its Charisma modifier for Concentration checks.

[edit] Nevermind, for some reason I read Concentration as Constitution [/edit]

 

[Knight Otu]

Unless noted otherwise, undead have absolutely no problem with running.

Constitution: Any living creature has at least 1 point of Constitution. A creature with no Constitution has no body or no metabolism. It is immune to any effect that requires a Fortitude save unless the effect works on objects or is harmless. The creature is also immune to ability damage, ability drain, and energy drain, and automatically fails Constitution checks. A creature with no Constitution cannot tire and thus can run indefinitely without tiring (unless the creature’s description says it cannot run).

 

[frankthedm]

Frank, if you look up the Undead template:

Yes, concentration checks. Those are not the same as a Constitution checks.

Don't get me wrong, I like the Idea of fully replacing Charisma for constitution for undead creatures.

Cha based bonus HP in exchange for being vulnerable to critical hits and sneak attack from the right weapon type.

Skeletons suffer crits, CDG and sneak attack from blunt
Zombies suffer crits,, CDG and sneak attatck from Axes
Vampires suffering crits, CDG and sneak attack from Piercing wood or Silver.​

This way the rogue is not quite as boned when the undead show up.

 

[Dracorat]

=-)

 

[Hypersmurf]

I recall reading an official article recently saying that undead can run without ever getting tired. It might've been in the recent Sage advice or the RotG (not sure).

It was RotG. He put up the article saying "Creatures with no Constitution score cannot run". We emailed him to say "But what about where it says creatures with no Constitution score can run indefinitely?"

He changed the article.

-Hyp.