Can you disrupt Wild Shape?

[KidCthulhu]

This came up in my 3.0 game last night. We had a bunch of twitchy, nervous guard types readying actions for the PCs to spell cast. The druid began wild shaping, which is a full round action. They fired crossbows.

I had the druid make a concentration check, and her result was so high that it made the point moot. But the question remains.

Wild shape is a spell-like ability. And the Druid entry in the PHB says "like Polymorph Self".

So can you disrupt it?

 

[Piratecat]

waves hand in Jedi-mind-trick

No. No you can't. Unless the druid is a bad guy. And these were not the druids you're looking for.

 

[hong]

Pay no attention to the cat behind the eyepatch.

Yes, you can disrupt a spell-like ability; the DC is 10 + damage.

 

[Kabol]

Wild shape can NOT be disrupted. Is it a Supernatural Ability (Su) - they not subject to AoO, Dispelling, Disruption, or Spell Resistance.

Page 314 PHB about Supernatual Abilities, and Page 37 PHB to show it is a Supernatual Ability.

 

[Thanee]

waves hand in Jedi-mind-trick

No. No you can't. Unless the druid is a bad guy. And these were not the druids you're looking for.

What? You think you're some kind of Jedi, waving your hand around like that?

Spell-Like: Spell-like abilities are magical and work just like spells (though they are not spells and so have no verbal, somatic, material, focus, or XP components). They go away in an antimagic field and are subject to spell resistance if the spell the ability resembles or duplicates would be subject to spell resistance.

A spell-like ability usually has a limit on how often it can be used. A spell-like ability that can be used at will has no use limit. Using a spell-like ability is a standard action unless noted otherwise, and doing so while threatened provokes attacks of opportunity. It is possible to make a Concentration check to use a spell-like ability defensively and avoid provoking an attack of opportunity, just as when casting a spell. A spell-like ability can be disrupted just as a spell can be. Spell-like abilities cannot be used to counterspell, nor can they be counterspelled.

However...

Wild Shape (Su): ...

Bye
Thanee

 

[Vraister]

He said in his post that he is playing 3.0 and there Wild Shape is a spell-like ability and therefore he had to make a concentration check.
But wild shape is not a full round action. Its a standard action.

Vraister

 

[Thanee]

Oh... 3.0... Hmm... dunno for sure, but I think the spell-like ability stuff works the same there.

DC should be 14+Damage then (10+SL+DMG).

Bye
Thanee

 

[Piratecat]

But wild shape is not a full round action. Its a standard action.

*blink* It is? I need to go grab my 3e book before I object.

 

[Hypersmurf]

*blink* It is? I need to go grab my 3e book before I object.

Wild Shape: At 5th level, a druid gains the spell-like ability to polymorph self into a Small or Medium-size animal (but not a dire animal) and back again once per day. Unlike the standard use of the spell, however, the druid may only adopt one form. As stated in the spell description, the druid regains hit points as if he or she has rested for a day. The druid does not risk the standard penalty for being disoriented while in the wild shape.

The druid can use this ability more times per day at 6th, 7th, 10th, 14th, and 18th level, as noted. In addition, the druid gains the ability to take the shape of a Large animal at 8th level, a Tiny animal at 11th level, and a Huge animal at 15th level. At 12th level or higher, she can take the form of a dire animal.

At 16th level or higher, the druid may use wild shape to change into a Small, Medium-size, or Large air, earth, fire, or water elemental once per day. The druid gains all the elemental's special abilities. At 18th level, the druid can do this three times per day.

No action type is specified, and normally, SLAs are a standard action unless specified otherwise.

However...

3E Wildshape allows you to "Polymorph Self" into another form.

The original 3E printing of Polymorph Self, which allowed multiple changes throughout the duration, stated:

The character can change form as often as desired for the duration of the spell simply by willing it so. Each change is a full-round action. character regains hit points as if having rested for a day only from the initial transformation, however.

This paragraph disappeared when Polymorph Self was changed in the PsiHB. And Dragon Magazine. And Tome and Blood. And Masters of the Wild. And... well, any other time 3E Polymorph changed

But it looks to me like the intention was that Wildshape references the "change form" paragraph of Polymorph Self as it existed when the ability was written.

There's room for argument, though

-Hyp.

 

[Vraister]

I see it the way that wild shape is the initial change from polymorph self and that the additional changes are forbidden. The initial change is part of the casting time and therefore a standard action.

And the feat "Fast Wildshape" from MotW states under normal: Druid uses wild shape as a standard action.

Cheers
Vraister