pawsplay said:
Although that probably doesn't apply (the rules seem to strongly suggest otherwise), I will go ahead and disagree with you. If your friend Bob tries to find you and Jimmy the Goblin later searches for you, since the roll is applied against both, each check generates the consequence. If twenty people search for you, you get twenty results where you fail to hide a number of times before hiding (which, naturally, causes you to fail). That is true whether one roll or twenty is used. In your scenario, it is incomplete, yet still certain, that you will fail before you succeed for each observer.
This is where you lose me; it's why I asked these questions before:
Assuming persistent Hide checks, if I hide from my ally and roll a 7, then attempt to hide from him again and roll a 15, and subsequently don't move, what result does the opponent's Spot check oppose when he eventually shows up?
Assuming persistent Hide checks, if I hide from my ally and roll a 15, then attempt to hide from him again and roll a 7, and subsequently don't move, what result does the opponent's Spot check oppose when he eventually shows up?
Are you suggesting that in both cases, the opponent who shows up later will make
two Spot checks?
If I hide, and then change my mind and walk out in the open, will someone showing up later need to make a Spot check to oppose the Hide check that is no longer applicable since I'm not hiding there any more?
If I make a Hide check, and then in the next round make a second Hide check, the first Hide check is no longer relevant. It applied to a situation that no longer exists; it has been superceded by a new situation.
If we consider, as an analogy, a Hide check of 3 to represent hiding behind a chair, and a Hide check of 12 to represent hiding behind a couch, and I make two rolls in successive rounds, rolling a 3 followed by a 12, someone coming along with a Spot check of 9 won't see me behind the chair, because I'm not there any more. I'm now behind the couch.
While my ally is present for all my failed results while I Take 20, someone coming along later doesn't care about any of those. The only one that is applicable is the most recent... the one that relates to how well I am hiding
now. Not how well I was hiding before I hid again.
... assuming persistent Hide checks.
-Hyp.