Changling Warshaper?

[Sithobi1]

I have a little question about the morphic weapon ability. How many can you have? Just 1 morphic weapon at a time? That seems quite limiting.

 

[Diirk]

So you're saying it's too front-loaded? Over the whole PrC, you lose 2 BAB, another hp, and you get an ability that isn't too useful for most.

I don't know if you've actually played the class, but the fast healing 2 doesn't help at all. The immunity to stuns and crits is nice, as are the stat and damage adjustments and reach. The fast healing 2 just means you auto-stabilize and you dont have to be cured outside of battle. In the games I've played, doesn't come in handy.

That's more or less my expectation of the fast healing, its mostly a convenience for after battles, altho it does have an (admittedly very minor) effect in battles, too.

Its not that its frontloaded so much; its abilities are spread out pretty well. But they're just so damn good for the most part, and its not like you're sacrificing alot. Infact in most circumstances, you're barely sacrificing anything, and your gains are quite significant. Take 4 levels? You've lost 1 BAB, but that only matters for iterative attacks. Your attack, damage, hitpoints etc are all better. (due to str/con increases)

 

[Jdvn1]

That's more or less my expectation of the fast healing, its mostly a convenience for after battles, altho it does have an (admittedly very minor) effect in battles, too.

Its not that its frontloaded so much; its abilities are spread out pretty well. But they're just so damn good for the most part, and its not like you're sacrificing alot. Infact in most circumstances, you're barely sacrificing anything, and your gains are quite significant. Take 4 levels? You've lost 1 BAB, but that only matters for iterative attacks. Your attack, damage, hitpoints etc are all better. (due to str/con increases)

But I'm not so sure you can look at only a part of a class to determine how powerful it is. Sure, a Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 2 is better than a Fighter 4, but does that mean the Psychic Warrior is so much better?

If you put the Fast Morph/Multimorph thing at 3rd level, and the immunity to crits/stuns at 5th level, it'd probably be better spread out.

 

[Diirk]

Even if you take it as a whole, you net the same attack bonus as a full BAB class with more hp and better damage, as well as a great ability and some good ones. Of course, as millions of munchkins around the world have discovered, its often not in your best interests to take a class as a whole And since its a PrC, you don't even need to worry about multiclass xp penalties.

 

[Saeviomagy]

But they're just so damn good for the most part, and its not like you're sacrificing alot.

But you ARE sacrificing quite a lot. Changelings as a race are almost exclusively focussed towards intrigue and subterfuge. They're a pretty bad choice for a fighter type. Taking levels in warshaper means you're missing out on a class with more skill points and the right class skills to be good at what a changeling is good at.

 

[Diirk]

Thats rubbish. They aren't bad fighters at all, they're just good at subterfuge. And just because they're good at one thing doesn't mean they have to use it, or that they can't be good at another.