Chaotic Neutral Copper Dragon?

How long have you been altering monster alignments?

  • Practically since day 1

    Votes: 86 54.8%
  • A rather recent development for me.

    Votes: 16 10.2%
  • I've always been by the book.

    Votes: 26 16.6%
  • I don't use alignments, so it doesn't apply to me.

    Votes: 29 18.5%

Treebore

First Post
Well, its nice to see the rules finally go here, but how many of you are like me and been having Dragons, and all monster types, running the full range of alignment for most of your DMing career?
 

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1/ I don't use alignment as-written.
2/ Dragons IMC can have any color and alignment combination.
3/ I've never even considered using a copper dragon. They sound ... poor. :\

Cheers, -- N
 

Nifft said:
3/ I've never even considered using a copper dragon. They sound ... poor. :\

Cheers, -- N
It takes 100 copper dragons to equal one gold dragon. Still, its better than in earlier editions where you needed 400 of them. :D
 

Depends on the monster. Dragons I sometimes will shift one step on the law/chaos and/or good/evil axis. Demons, devils and other outsiders I've never changed, though I would be open to occaisonally having an exception to this (such as a fallen angel).

Pretty much anything else I change around.
 

Perhaps its just my unfamiliarity with the minis game, but: What's a Neutral Mini doing? Have the changed the game enought to eliminate how all minis were aligned?
 

As a DM, I've been altering alignments to suit my plot goals since way back in the B/X days. During an exploration of the Caves of Chaos, the party rescued a Lawful orc henchman that had been tossed in prison by his chieftan to rot. That orc lasted all the way to the Isle of Dread (the old Expert set module) and IIRC he got eaten by a T-Rex while covering the party magic-user's escape.

So yeah, this is an old tradition. It's cool to see the 4e designers explicitly incorporating it, though, much like Keith Baker did for Eberron.
 

dmccoy1693 said:
Perhaps its just my unfamiliarity with the minis game, but: What's a Neutral Mini doing? Have the changed the game enought to eliminate how all minis were aligned?

In DDM, the Neutral minis can either work for two factions (LE/LG or CE/CG) or all four factions depending on the warband build. The Gulgar from War Drums (#27/60) is a good example of this.
 

1982... when subduing dragons was a special rule, I decided to have a blue dragon learn the error of his ways after a beat-down by a paladin and party :)
 

I've always been okay with changing an alignment or two, but I avoid it whenever possible. It's exlicitly allowed, but it is supposed to be rare, not the rule.

However, you should never come to a game I DM asking to be a good drow or vampire searching for redemption. Never.
 

I voted 'recebntly', because it never dawned on me to change Dreagon alignments until Eberron---and now I'm never going back.

I don't think the Good Drow characters I played in the wake of Unearthed Arcana count, do they?
 
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