I don't. It's a tool and the use is what determines good or evil. Shutting down someone's will to commit atrocities is not evil.That's because there isn't proof that charm spells are evil. There isn't proof they're not either. You either accept the axiom that overriding someone's will with your own via magic is inherently evil or you don't.
Yeah, and the Bene Gesserit have also been manipulating noble houses and working their secret genetic engineering goal for generations. They’re not exactly upstanding examples of morality.How do people feel about 'the voice' in Dune?
It is essentially Dominate Person.
In the 2021 movie it is themed to be a dark and ominous power and yet the protagonist uses it without moral quandaries.
Yeah, and the Bene Gesserit have also been manipulating noble houses and working their secret genetic engineering goal for generations. They’re not exactly upstanding examples of morality.
Knowing what I know about Dune - I'm not so sure it is being portrayed differently morally. Just... differently.That is why the important part here is when the protagonist uses it.
It's easy to say that charms are evil when the evil person uses them.
The question here is whether they are evil when the PC uses them.
Dune 2021 is a great example of how the same power is portrayed differently morally.
Knowing what I know about Dune - I'm not so sure it is being portrayed differently morally. Just... differently.
To be fair, I've never seen any character in the Dune movies or books as particularly good.How do people feel about 'the voice' in Dune?
It is essentially Dominate Person.
In the 2021 movie it is themed to be a dark and ominous power and yet the protagonist uses it without moral quandaries.
No, you didn't answer me, and you're the one who PM'd me. You claimed it was always, objectively evil but failed to produce any actual facts to back you up--you just insisted that your beliefs were objectively correct. But that's not what's important here.I did answer you. You asked again in a PM and I responded.
Magical charms are the same as brainwashing and gaslighting or even drugs. It's using magic to change people's minds, thoughts, beliefs, and desires.Apples and oranges. I'm not talking about brainwashing or gaslighting. Those are different instances and just because you can find some bad instances, does not make all instances bad.
Would you feel the same way if the means were more conventionally violent? Does hitting someone who is about to murder a child justify hitting?no it is a bad act with a good ends... and in my mind the ends don't justify the means.