D&D (2024) Check Out The New Dungeon Master's Guide's Greyhawk Map

Greyhawk is the 'sample setting' provided in the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide.

Greyhawk is the 'sample setting' provided in the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide, and it is illustrated with a massive hex map by the awesome Mike Schley.

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mikeburke

Tarrasquesque
Oh, Faerûn, and by a lot

The Flannaes is ~6.5 million square miles.

The Sword Coaat area covered by SCAG alone is ~5 million square miles.
I’d always thought of the run from Neverwinter to Waterdeep as being the fantasy equivalent of “popping down to the shops”. Then I realized the scale.. it’s like 450 miles?! I think the maps, great as they are, give a false sense of scale.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend, he/him
I’d always thought of the run from Neverwinter to Waterdeep as being the fantasy equivalent of “popping down to the shops”. Then I realized the scale.. it’s like 450 miles?! I think the maps, great as they are, give a false sense of scale.
The main issue is thst 3E/4E messed with the map scale, and the novels kind of trest the distances like nothing. Going from Neverwinter to Baldur's Gate is epic!
 

The Greyhawk campaign is set in the Flanaess sub continent, the eastern end of Oerik.

Most of planet Oerth’s landmass is in Oerik + a very close by continent about the size of the Flanaess called Hepmonaland.

Nothing outside the Flanaess and Hepmonaland was developed or is even agreed upon among fans. Which is cool - a DIY planet.

The Flanaess is to Oerth as Europe is to Eurasia+Africa, if the Americas didn’t exist and no one could even agree on the shape of Asia much less what’s there.
 


Mannahnin

Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
Wow. I’d known this was an anger-inducing module among Gygax loyalists but hadn’t read it. Having listened recently to the “When we were wizards” podcast I recognize a bunch of these references and wonder about the thoughts ( resentments?) going on in Breault‘s (the editor’s) mind. His CV show a love and loyalty to the game.

The conventional take is presumably something like “Lorraine Williams ordered a hatchet job” but I am willing to bet the reality was very different. Not sure if there’s research into what was really going on at the time and how this found the light of day. Just bizarre.
It had indeed angered the blood of a lot of grognards.

Are you saying you read the module recently? I acquired it as a teenager, back in the day, and found it pretty wild but didn't get all the references. I do remember partially getting the joke about Mordenkainen's movie studio, but it's been some years since I last opened the covers, so I'm wondering if having listened to WWWW, read Game Wizards and Slaying the Dragon and so forth will give me enough inside baseball knowledge of TSR to get any additional references or jokes.


The Greyhawk campaign is set in the Flanaess sub continent, the eastern end of Oerik.

Most of planet Oerth’s landmass is in Oerik + a very close by continent about the size of the Flanaess called Hepmonaland.

Nothing outside the Flanaess and Hepmonaland was developed or is even agreed upon among fans. Which is cool - a DIY planet.

The Flanaess is to Oerth as Europe is to Eurasia+Africa, if the Americas didn’t exist and no one could even agree on the shape of Asia much less what’s there.
Frank Mentzer's Empyrea campaign setting is on the Aquaria continent, which he apparently agreed with Gary was East of Oerik, across the Solnor Ocean. When Frank pitched it as a Kickstarter (and generally) he talked about how Gary had given him written authorization to set it on Oerth, but apparently the continent is also described briefly in module I12 Egg of the Phoenix (Mentzer & Jaquays), so that gives those geographical details at least a touch of officiality.
 


Stormonu

NeoGrognard
The Greyhawk campaign is set in the Flanaess sub continent, the eastern end of Oerik.

Most of planet Oerth’s landmass is in Oerik + a very close by continent about the size of the Flanaess called Hepmonaland.

Nothing outside the Flanaess and Hepmonaland was developed or is even agreed upon among fans. Which is cool - a DIY planet.

The Flanaess is to Oerth as Europe is to Eurasia+Africa, if the Americas didn’t exist and no one could even agree on the shape of Asia much less what’s there.
In fact, if you look at the map, it's Europe (+North Africa & Western Asia) flipped backwards and tilted about 30 degrees southeastward.

"The Great Kingdom" could very much be considered the old Holy Roman Empire.
 

Yaarel

🇮🇱He-Mage
In fact, if you look at the map, it's Europe (+North Africa & Western Asia) flipped backwards and tilted about 30 degrees southeastward.

"The Great Kingdom" could very much be considered the old Holy Roman Empire.
The map of Oerth in Dragon Annual 1996 have certain areas clearly correspond to certain reallife locations, including "Lynn" (Holy Roman Empire of France and Germany) and "Erypt" (Egypt and Arabia).

The supercontinent of Oerik is as if Siberia and America crashed into each other.
 

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