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Chicago Gameday XI is 7/9: Planning thread!

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Has anyone ever considered using the RPGA for running some game events.. it might draw a larger number of people to the event.. especially if you advertise the fact that you will be running a Living campaign event such as the Living Greyhawk or Living Kalamar. Having one or two tables in each slot would go a long way to get more people involved in the game day? All it would take is to get a couple certified judges for the event.. and then anyone could sign up at the game day for the RPGA for a free lifetime membership.
Just an idea?
-jon
 

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buzz said:
Since we have the time, it would be possible to implement something like this for 7/9. We can either add a table and dedicate it to these mini-games, or if someone would like to forego their submitted event and replace it with mini-games, that's also do-able. Or, we can just wait until the fall. It's up to you, GMs.

I'll volunteer to try it out.

My adventure scenario can easily be cut down, and put on an adventure 'timer'. Likewise, I've got an idea for a very quick D20 (or D6) Star Wars mission I could run.

It's the Gameday DOUBLE FEATURE!
 
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Nikmal said:
Has anyone ever considered using the RPGA for running some game events..

I would perfer if the RPGA was not involved with the Gamedays. I know I am not alone in my avoidance of all things RPGA.
 

Reidzilla said:
I would perfer if the RPGA was not involved with the Gamedays. I know I am not alone in my avoidance of all things RPGA.
Reid, this is not against you in particualr, you just happened to have made the comment.

I SO am against that attitude. You may not like the RPGA (and I may or may not) but I don't see the Game Day "restricting games" based on the fact that it is RPGA or not as being a GOOD thing at all (or Game Base 7 or whatever sponsor). I feel inclined to keep such prejudices away from Game Day.

Bottom line: If you don't like an event or who is running it or who sponsoring it, don't play in it. MANY other folks might. But I don't think its right to "down talk" games in such a manner.

If I thought Game Day took that attitude, I would not be a part of it.


(I recall a time when it was frowned upon to run non-d20 games, a attitude that I pretty much ignored...now look at the GD's. They run all kinds and folks seem the happier for it.)
 
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Nikmal said:
Has anyone ever considered using the RPGA for running some game events.. it might draw a larger number of people to the event.. especially if you advertise the fact that you will be running a Living campaign event such as the Living Greyhawk or Living Kalamar. Having one or two tables in each slot would go a long way to get more people involved in the game day? All it would take is to get a couple certified judges for the event.. and then anyone could sign up at the game day for the RPGA for a free lifetime membership.
Just an idea?
-jon

I don't think we need to run any RPGA events. The stuff that gets run at Chicago Gamedays draws a decent-sized crowd, so I don't think we need to actively strive for larger gamedays.

I say this as a person who plays and judges a lot of LG for the RPGA (my main character has played over 100 mods in Living Greyhawk). It just draws a different sort of crowd (not better, not worse, just different). The last time someone ran an RPGA event at a Chicago Gameday, it seemed to me that the RPGA players showed up for their slot and weren't interested in any of what makes a Gameday special--socializing with other EN Worlders or trying new games. Just my two cents.


Kent, player of Barendd Nobeard
XP earned in LG: 104,879
Current XP: 54,780
Playing APL 8 with 14th level equipment: Priceless
 

Barendd Nobeard said:
It just draws a different sort of crowd (not better, not worse, just different). The last time someone ran an RPGA event at a Chicago Gameday, it seemed to me that the RPGA players showed up for their slot and weren't interested in any of what makes a Gameday special--socializing with other EN Worlders or trying new games.
Yeah, I get what you mean. Although I guess the Devil's Advocate in me would be to question how much socializing we tried to do with them. I will be the first to admit that I don't go out of my way to talk with everyone...but then I am usually too busy doing final stuff for my games. I do usually talk with the folks that sit at my table...it's how I met John, Kent and a few others who have since joined my table for other games and such.

I just guess I am for any and all games (with logical limits, like no LARPs, no space) to get a chance and that folks who come to run games feel invited and welcomed.
 

Buzz, feel free to change my listed event to...

GAMEDAY DOUBLE FEATURE: "Romiet & Juleo", Skull & Bones d20, and "Order 66", Star Wars d20 (Pbartender)
 

While I think the mini-games sound fun, I have to wonder how they'd be run in practice. The only people who could play in the second mini-game during a regular session would have to be the folks who were in the first mini-game too, or folks who simply arrived late and forewent any other involvement in that slot.

I'm also not particularly interested in "RPGA"-ing the Gamedays in general. The RPGA has a role, and the ENWorld gamedays have a role, and I don't think it's the same role. I'm also not much a fan of the RPGA system. I've met several RPGA members, and think they're fine (heck, I don't think of myself as one, but I guess I am at that; I have the card in my wallet to prove it even) but I don't really like the "RPGA sanctioned" way of doing things.
 

I ran an RPGA event at an early Chicago Gameday and most of the people involved weren't RPGA members before I signed them up at the table. (Kent, did you play in that one, though as a member already?) We socialized just fine, I suppose. :) William Ronald plays fairly regularly in the RPGA nowadays, I believe.

I helped run a number of RPGA Gamedays with the same fellas who run most of them around these parts now, like Mike Mensa and Brad Ruby, and I doubt it's worthwhile to go out of our way to try and add RPGA events to our own schedule. The draw of those RPGA gamedays (mostly they like to do full weekends, and cross-polinate with Wisconsin members which is a different region) is the fullness of the schedule; no matter which particular adventures your character has experienced, there's a handful more of particular ones he hasn't. RPGA members also like the opportunity to take care of out of game character business at these sanctioned events where many, many other RPGA members (and their characters, and their characters' stuff) will be at hand. So many have families and only break away for these RPGA events once every quarter. I think 6 to 8 table places pretty much have to decide to be RPGA all the way on a given day, or not.

On the other hand, if someone was an EN World regular, who regularly ran RPGA events anyway, and wanted to use the open table or two (we usually have one or two open) to pull in a group to play some offhand adventure that they had never gotten around to playing, or one that had gone unplayed at a regular COWS RPGA weekend (because a DM missed the event because she was having a baby or some other unusual circumstance) I don't see why we couldn't accomodate such a situation. I really don't think we'd ever see a situation where RPGA events would push aside other things. I think they'd want to talk to Games Plus Curt about handling a full weekend on their own if they were to do anything at all, and that's still unlikely because former Triad member Lon has a gamestore of his own (Lon's Lair) and Josh Brown who is Asst Mgr of Hobbytown, USA in Oak Park is an integral part of the RPGA events that get organized 'round these parts' (like his big, very fun, March Madness event). But those gamestores are advertised, or maybe have a booth at events because they are no where near big enough to handle (for onsite gaming) the crowds those events draw.

And to be further frank, Games Plus just isn't big enough to handle the size of events they like to organize, either. Beside the March Madness weekend, which boasts dozens of games, they combine with the College of DuPage Sci-Fi and game club to run a couple/few weekends (CodCon, etc.) every year with 20-30 tables (maybe more now!). They'll run a slot on Friday night, a few slots on Saturday and a couple more on Sunday, and gerrymander the thing in such a way as to make sure that most people in this section of the region (and from Wisconsin's region), no matter whether they can make the full weekend or just a day, will have as much gaming as they can cram in without having slots that their character can't find an adventure. It's very well organized and they really are more like mini-conventions than the casual day we put together.

They also combine with the Highfolk gang (Wisconsin) to organize some on the south end of their state (which allows for that many more adventures, since some are region-specific, that folks from this region or that can play in. As you can see one of the drives of RPGA members is to manage to pack as few weekends as possible with as much gaming as possible so that their character can run through all of the national adventures, and all of your regional adventures in a year, and for those lucky few who can organize at the border between two strong regions like WI and IL/IN, you can run your PC through the regional adventures of a bordering region as well. Of course another goal for RPGA members is to sustain their characters and adventure with others in an ongoing, shared world. It's designed to be inclusively-cliquish, if that makes sense. ;)

And money changes hands for their events, which might further complicate things for Chicago Gamedays. Obviously the guys who set these big events up like to make sure that they not only have their expenses covered, but that they will wind up not having to pay out of pocket for their own gaming (a much deserved perk for some very dedicated workers). Plus, there's the whole prize thing. IIRC, the RPGA events have very limited prizes, if any, because the character advancement is sorta the reward.

Anyway, I don't think RPGA games at Chicago Gamedays is a good idea or a bad idea, just (realistically) an unlikely integration. We're small potatos to them. ;) I hope my overview of the RPGA from my limited perspective didn't bore or offend anyone, but I think it's fairly accurate. Nevertheless, it it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong, so who knows? :D
 
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Mark said:
I ran an RPGA event at an early Chicago Gameday and most of the people involved weren't RPGA members before I signed them up at the table. (Kent, did you play in that one, though as a member already?) We socialized just fine, I suppose. :) William Ronald plays fairly regularly in the RPGA nowadays, I believe.

Oh, yes, I played that adventure--with my (not-so) mightly halfling monk--it was my first non-Highfolk (Wisconsin) regional mod. What I remember most was Cam's character got arrested and then got into a brawl with his cellmate while he was locked up in the jail. :p

That was at the very first gameday (Jan 5 2002). The "not interested in socializing" one was more recently (maybe early 2004?) and that was just my impression--not any scientifically valid analysis or explanation.

If the Chicago Gamedays were small and we felt the need to increase the size, I would say, "Sure! Let's add some RPGA stuff!" But since we're not really trying to increase the size of the turnout at Chicago Gamedays (are we? maybe I'm just out of the loop), I think Mark has given some well-reasoned thoughts on why the RPGA and Chicago EN Gamedays are not a great fit at this time. But if someone wanted to run the final mods in the Verbobonc Dwarven series ("Rockhall Keep" storyline), hey, I'd be the first to sign up! :)
 

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