Classic warriors: Warlords or Fighters?

[Green Knight]

Warduke is definitely a Fighter. He may have gotten some Warlord training later on, but that's just later. For most of his career he was definitely a Fighter, and a ridiculously bad-ass one at that (Holy Mother of God, is Warduke going to be one sick bastard statted up for 4E!).

 

[grimslade]

They're all fighters. I see no evidence of moving other characters around the battlefield or granting a healing surge. Not even many, "Get up you lazy SOB". Most tactics that are shown are at the general level, not in the field. I am struggling to find any character that fits as a 4E Warlord.

 

[keterys]

I see no evidence of moving other characters around the battlefield or granting a healing surge.

Except that it would only manifest as heightened morale. So, it would be 'Did anyone rally his side when they were losing, lead the charge, press an attack that his allies followed him in on, called out a warning to someone else, told someone to help him flank, demoralized or distracted an opponent so that an ally had an easier time against them, etc'

And there's lots of that. Remember, fiction shouldn't look like game mechanics, it should look like the scene the game mechanics try to evoke. Warlords don't make wounds magically disappear or make people suddenly bamf around a combat. They just help you do things better, faster, longer, etc.

 

[TerraDave]

Hmm, King Arthur maybe? Sure, he's got that magic sword and did some fighting by his lonesome in his younger days, but most of the stories are about his knights or with him leading battles. He's more well known for being a leader then a fighter in his own right, these days.

You could probably make a decent argument that Robin Hood, another legendary character, was a Warlord-Ranger mix depending on which version you use.

I'd by both of those, with Lancelot and Little John as the main fighters (Galahad would be the uber paladin, not sure on the merry man side).

Warlord can also cover your Ceasers, Alexander the Greats, and so on.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

Agreed. Her idea of protecting someone was to shoot whatever was attacking them. Total striker. Bruennor was her defender, and he was more often defending her than he was ruling the dwarves. I'd say that makes him a fighter with some warlord multiclassing.

Figure in 3/3.5 she was a multiclass ranger (for free feats and skill points) with mostly fighter levels (for feats), since she wasn't observed wearing heavy armor.

For 4e, she'll be a ranger.

Brad