Cleric multiclassed with Cleric

[Deset Gled]

The following segment ofthe SRD recently caught my eye:

Ex-Clerics
A cleric who grossly violates the code of conduct required by his god loses all spells and class features, except for armor and shield proficiencies and proficiency with simple weapons. He cannot thereafter gain levels as a cleric of that god until he atones (see the atonement spell description).

To me, this implies that the cleric could choose to gain levels as a cleric of a different god. This opens up an interesting loophole: is there anything to stop someone from taking the early levels of the cleric class more than once, as a worshiper of multiple gods?

Obviously, the caster levels wouldn't stack, and neither would the modifiers for turning. It would, however, grant two extra domain powers and double the number of turning attempts per day. Those these attempts might not turn very well, they would still be good for divine feats.

From a roleplaying perspective, it doesn't seem to be a likely senario, but it might make sense if the two gods in question were very similar in faith and have good relations with each other. Chaotic clerics could probably get away with it pretty easily.

 

[AGGEMAM]

It would, however, grant two extra domain powers and double the number of turning attempts per day.

Are you serious?

Firstly, you can't multiclass by taking another level of the same class. Secondly, read the first line of you quote:

A cleric who grossly violates the code of conduct required by his god loses all spells and class features, except for armor and shield proficiencies and proficiency with simple weapons.

Last I checked turn undead and domain spells were class features.

 

[WCrawford]

The following segment ofthe SRD recently caught my eye:



To me, this implies that the cleric could choose to gain levels as a cleric of a different god. This opens up an interesting loophole: is there anything to stop someone from taking the early levels of the cleric class more than once, as a worshiper of multiple gods?

Obviously, the caster levels wouldn't stack, and neither would the modifiers for turning. It would, however, grant two extra domain powers and double the number of turning attempts per day. Those these attempts might not turn very well, they would still be good for divine feats.

From a roleplaying perspective, it doesn't seem to be a likely senario, but it might make sense if the two gods in question were very similar in faith and have good relations with each other. Chaotic clerics could probably get away with it pretty easily.

From the 3.5 PHB, page 59

Adding A Second Class

When a character with one class gains a level, he or she may choose to increase the level of his or her current class or pick a new class at 1st level. (A character can't gain 1st level in the same class more than once, even if this would allow him or her to select different class features, such as a different set of domains for a cleric.)

Hope this helps.

 

[Deset Gled]

From the 3.5 PHB, page 59

Thanks for the PHB reference. Unless I'm missing it somwhere, this detail didn't make the SRD.

AGGEMAN - Yes, I do realize the implications of that quote. However, whether or not worshiping more than one god constitutes a "gross violation" is not clear. I would expect it to work on a god-by-god basis (as I stated earlier about friendly gods and chaotic clerics).

 

[WCrawford]

Thanks for the PHB reference. Unless I'm missing it somwhere, this detail didn't make the SRD.

I've told other people who rely on the SRD that the SRD isn't intended to play the game, but it is intended to allow people to write DnD/d20 compatable material.

Sometime we all need the reminder that the SRD contains only most of the rules, not all.

 

[Magic Slim]

Within the rules, there's nothing, IMO, that would prevent you from converting to the faith of another god. I'm not sure if there have been rules to cover this, although the FRCS covers this to a limited extent.

Slim

 

[Lamoni]

Within the rules, there's nothing, IMO, that would prevent you from converting to the faith of another god. I'm not sure if there have been rules to cover this, although the FRCS covers this to a limited extent.

Slim

Suppose someone converted. What would that mean? Would they lose their old domains and gain new ones? Would it have any impact on spell progression?

That might be fun if you wanted to abuse the rules. You could keep swapping faiths to get different domain spells as you progressed in levels. Speaking of Domain Spells, does it bother anyone else why there are so many of them that are just repeats of spells in the standard cleric spell list? And what domain do you find to be the most worthless? ... Maybe I should have started a new thread with these questions, oh well.

 

[Trickstergod]

That might be fun if you wanted to abuse the rules. You could keep swapping faiths to get different domain spells as you progressed in levels

Fortunately, the gods aren't stupid unless the DM is, and aren't going to allow any shenanigans like that. If a person isn't faithful to begin with, they're not going to allow anything like that. For that matter, if you're allowing clerics that don't have a deity, changing ones idealogical perspective is damn near impossible, too.

Faith isn't like a trading card. You can't just swap them out. It's important, integral, encompassing. I've a few other choice words to say on the matter, but they're less than polite.

 

[ForceUser]

Fortunately, the gods aren't stupid unless the DM is, and aren't going to allow any shenanigans like that. If a person isn't faithful to begin with, they're not going to allow anything like that. For that matter, if you're allowing clerics that don't have a deity, changing ones idealogical perspective is damn near impossible, too.

Faith isn't like a trading card. You can't just swap them out. It's important, integral, encompassing. I've a few other choice words to say on the matter, but they're less than polite.

I totally agree. I have no problem with a cleric of god A converting to the worship of god B and allowing an ad hoc swapping out of domains. But there's no way you get to keep them all.

 

[Tidus4444]

I believe 3.0 gave some rules for converting to a cleric of a different god. Essentially, the other god restores all of your cleric levels from the other god (minus domain powers; pick new ones based on your new god) and you can now progress as as a cleric of your new god.