Cleric wants fighter BAB

[Destil]

A Paladin is not an option?

8 out of 9 alingments agree... a Paladin is not an option.

 

[Suldulin]

if he wants better bab why not have him multiclass as a barbarian or fighter? simple

 

[Volaran]

Indeed, multiclassing seems like the best option. It would only take a few included fighter levels to let him eventually get the fourth interative attack, and he'll have spells that will surely make up for not having the rest of the BAB.

 

[orbitalfreak]

Maybe let him keep his high will save and reduce his spells down to the bard's spells/day? 3 levels of spells for +5 BAB and fourth iterative attack?

 

[Pbartender]

8 out of 9 alingments agree... a Paladin is not an option.

Yes, but if the DM is looking for a house rule that gives Clerics a better BAB, a house that Rule-0's the Paladin's alignment restriction would work just as well and be much simpler to implement.

 

[plavi]

Yeah, there is a player who wants to have a more fighting cleric with the best BAB progression. He is halfogre (halforc stats), has the domains of fire and war and has 20str, 16dex, 10con, 6int, 17wis, 9cha (organic method).

No. No! NO!

If you start giving a cleric fighting prowess why would anybody ever play a fighter? Just for the feats? Nah.
Why would anybody play a paladin if you can be a cleric with fighter BAB (apart from the alignment restrictions, and Pally's already get kinda slowed down after 7th lvl). If he wants to be a barbarian, and al the plusses it gives, then play a barbarian.

If he wants to be able to do it all himself, combat AND casting, just forbid it, and don't help him by houseruling it. In my years of gaming, which are quite a few, I've seen many campaigns go to waste because one or 2 of these kinds of characters were running around (especially in 2nd Ed., the worst being a lvl 10/11/10/9 or something fighter/mage/monk/psionicist. Don't ask)

I am now running a campaign, started at level 1, that I have kept in check very tightly, and the heroes are now around lvl 13 and he game is still fun, challenging and exciting (believe me, which is quite hard to accomplish at those higher levels with an added total of around 40 years of DnD experience on the other side of the screen where everybody knows all the cool higher level tricks)

A well, long story, I could elaborate for pages and pages.

Short version: start by saying no, and if he plays his character in such a nice and cool way that you think it is fitting for his character to get what he wants, you can always make something up (wish/miracle, divine intervention (he is a cleric after all), etc).
It is so much easier and more rewarding to give something for a thing well accomplished then it is to take something away, even though you are the DM, shouldn't have been given in the first place, etc

*gasps for air*

good luck!

 

[Morgenstern]

Umm, as an only faintly house-rules alternative, might let him burn a feat slot to get +1 BAB with whatever his god thinks is a holy weapon (sort of a modified Weapon Focus), and allow him to take this feat more than once (using his level based peats). Then he doesn't have the versitility of the figther, but retains the flavor of Fighter-like BAB but only with his god's weapon. The price he's paying is feats. Limit the feat to once at 1st level, twice at 5th, 3 times by 9th, four at 13th, and 5 at 17th, so tht he can pretty much keep up with a fighter at the cost of 5 out of his 7 level-based feats.

Its a change, but not a big change. He'll just have to kiss off most of the cleric's metamagic options, and frankly those are far more powerful than the BAB, since at higher levels a cleric can walk around with pretty much a permanent Fighter BAB and +1 hp per die (giving the d10 average hp) just by extending the right spell.

 

[Derren]

No class tweaking!!!!!

Show your player the spell Divine Might. This spell gives him a fighter BAB for its duration.

When this is not enough for him then he must multiclass.
If your players start to customize their classes you soon will have monks with fighter BAB and bard spells

 

[Chacal]

Alternately, you could allow some of the PrC with full spellcasting progression and fighter BAB that some DMs (including me ) banned in horror

Chacal

 

[Pbartender]

The Divine Champion PrC from FRC might be a good alternative...